On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 08:35:39AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > It's one of the costs (and, actually, one of the benefits) of working > with open source. With "Proprietary" you have "guarantees". When they > fall down on the job, or when other bad stuff happens, you can > theoretically get some sort of compensation. But when you look at the > record, the compensation you get isn't worth it. I think your view ignores the fact that you *only* get "guarantees" on software if you make a contract for such, and even so they are called Service Level Agreements (SLAs). Software is copyright, so demanding "guarantees" is like demanding guarantees from a book. It can't be done. Now since SLAs may be bought regardless of the software license, you get SLAs with any company which is willing to sell them. Red Hat, for instance, is quite happy (I imagine) to sell you support with an SLA. > With opensource, you have both the responsibility and the privilege to > run your own install servers and backups. And you don't have the > guarantees that seem to fool the bean counters. No, that's merely Free Software without commercial support. You get to depend on your knowledge and the community's alone. The nicest thing about Free Software is that this pretty much works quite well, generally, and in special cases you can usually buy some commercial support from someone. With proprietary software you usually only get the commercial support (and frequently it sucks) and there's little community (if at all). I'm pretty much opposed to the concept of guarantees on software in a general way, for it only favours proprietary software. Free Software would have to certify any change in order to provide guarantees, and that would kill the development model. Rui -- Fnord. Today is Sweetmorn, the 17th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list