Re: non-disclosure of infrastructure problem a management issue?

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Björn Persson wrote:
Anders Karlsson wrote:
* Björn Persson <bjorn@rombobjörn.se> [20080823 18:57]:
The first announcement gave me the impression that there was a technical
problem, such as overloaded web servers or a crashed database or
something. In retrospect it's obvious that when that announcement was
written they already knew or at least suspected that there had been an
intrusion. This gives me the impression that Paul W. Frields was not
being truthful. He lied by telling half the truth.
That is a pretty strong statement to make. Not telling everything does
not equate lying - especially when what you are telling (or can tell)
is true. And if all you have is an impression that he is not truthful,
you conceed that you have no evidence to the contrary as well.

I think you owe Paul Frields an apology.

It would be possible to convince me that he didn't mean to deceive. It would take an honest-sounding statement that he thought that everybody would understand that installing packages might be not only unsafe but actually insecure, and also a very good explanation of why he – or someone giving him orders – thought it was absolutely necessary to be so cryptic. It would be

You do not have the all the facts yet you feel free to pass judgement. Calling Paul Frields a liar is out of line and you know it, we have no idea what constraints he may be operating under. Your statement above strikes me as naive and dishonest. You had no idea there was a security issue? It was the first thing to cross my mind when I first saw the announcement. What else could it have been? Why else the cryptic message? No, it strikes me that you are being dishonest with yourself first and foremost. From what little I can glean from mail sent to this list you do not strike me as a fool, is it just frustration at the situation? This is understandable but it does not give you leave to accuse people of being deceitful.

dishonest to apologize before I'm convinced.

Björn Persson

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