Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:45:12 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote:
I myself am not on the announce list
Why not?
Because I never thought the list was informative.
Do you prefer to see emergency situations more often? ;)
No emergencies would be ideal.
It can be argued what types of messages really belong on fedora-announce-list,
but new Fedora releases, EOL, and outage notifications already have
been posted to that list. It's not a message a day yet (it's a few
messages per month instead of one per month as I mistyped elsewhere).
I am signed up now on the announce list. The account is sent to a low
volume account so should be easily spotted when they may be generated.
fedora-list? It is a high-traffic discussion list where one can miss an
important message too easily in hundreds of unimportant messages which
are filtered into a special folder.
It being a high volume list pretty much prevents every user to have
filtered the important message and replies to the message out.
You assume that every user reads the list every day.
Plus, the more lists an announcement is posted to, the more likely it is
that replies are posted to a different list and start a thread there.
I have let the list go unread for several days and can see your point
there. The dissatisfaction some listers see with noise to data, this
thread included, would make daily reading more likely if these
discussions did not take place.
[Btw, fedora-test-list ought to be merged with fedora-devel-list,
and Test Update release reports ought to be posted to fedora-list.]
The last time that I was on the development list it had an atmosphere of
don't post here, this is for developers to discuss issues. I believe
there is a warning to that effect on the web page to sign up.
The fedora-test-list works out fine for informing people of problems
with development and also the testing updates get feedback to the
developers who are subscribed to that list.
Okay, you took the bait. That was an idea for finding out what you
would say to other reorganisation of the lists. The problem with
fedora-test-list is that it is supposed to be for "testers of
fedora development releases" which is different from "test updates for
stable releases". Test updates are relevant to users of stable releases,
but those users don't like to read all the other traffic. And the list
is a source of many off-topic threads and cross-posts (to -devel *and*
-test).
Testing is testing whether it be full blown chance taking or the
moderate and less chance of error testing packages.
Maybe rawhide issues can be discussed on the development list and only
testing issues generated on fedora test list. I have benefited by both
issues being discussed on the -test list. (Recovery from X errors, lib
problems, kernel and SELinux errors, t name a few issue)
Jim
PS - I liked Les' fedora-FEMA list idea.
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