> On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:35:49 +0100, Marcelo M. Garcia wrote: > >> g wrote: >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> > Hash: SHA1 >> > >> > >> > Marcelo M. Garcia wrote: >> > <snip> >> >> If it's so "natural" for a user to sign fedora-announce, this should be >> >> stated in the web page, something like "It is highly recommend if you >> >> are signing for fedora-list". One step further is to put a option (like >> >> a check box) to sign for announce when signing for fedora-list. >> > >> > you do not need a bunch of detailed pages if you just read what is at; >> > >> > https://redhat.com/mailman/listinfo >> > >> >> And to make users happy, a guide on how to create filters to different >> >> lists. >> > >> > filters are filters. email clients are not all same when it comes to >> > setting up filters. among easiest to set up is thunderbird. >> > >> >> Hi >> >> In the page that you suggest, I read "Announcements related to the >> Fedora Project", which seems a pretty much vague. > > Okay, but Fedora is the distribution released by the Fedora Project, so > related announcements should be of interest to anyone having to do > something with Fedora. The online list archive shows that only a very few > announcements have been made before. > >> And the other says >> "For users of Fedora", which is my case. To me don't seem logical that I >> should sign to both. > > Splitting-hairs. Many more lists could be made obsolete with such > a reasoning. > >> The whole point is, if it is so obvious that one that signs for >> Fedora-list should also sign for Fedora-Announce, why two separated >> lists? > > And who maintains the _list of lists_ to which announcements shall > be sent? Do you ask for major cross-posts to [more than] a dozen lists? > >> If the announces are important and concern to the users. > > ... not just to "the users", but also to several other target groups, > who may not be subscribed to fedora-list. > > Same applies to fedora-package-announce list. > >> Even in a high volume list like "Fedora-list", if I see a header >> "[INFRASTRUCTURE TEAM - Urgent] ..." I will read the message. > > Only if you read the list on a daily basis or if you know what > special subject marker to search for in your filters. > >> Maybe because English is not my native tongue, but the word >> "announcement" doesn't to suggest something that important. > > Announcements at the airport or at the train-station, do you ignore > them? those are broadcasted via speaker and panels and whatever they find at a train station, they do not concentrate on one single channel, knowing exactly having people with high, middle, low and no experience at all. what is happening, is that now will of each experience loose their interest on this distro while discussing the correct way of information.i think that even fedora can learn of non-experienced people which just want to have a working system without being signed in there and there and there, and not only for high-tech-interested subscribed in any list. so, the idea having the information, that updates will fail while running the update itself, as mentionned before would be the quickest and most visible way for all. Perphaps, there would be the possibilty to leave a hyperlink to a website for the reason of the incident whithin the message? Roger -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
