On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I just searched for "googlesmithing" with nothing fancy. Popped right up. I am not trying to find googlesmithing on the web. I am trying to find it (and more generally, any search term) strictly within the archives of the fedora users list. I don't want the entire web, or even all of linux, because very often I am searching for the sort of stuff where the correct answer for debian or suse is noise for fedora. Often I know something has been discussed here, so I don't want to waste bandwidth by posting again, yet I do want to find the answer, which is no longer among my emails. So I want to use google but generate only hits that have appeared on this list as posts, just as if the list archive had a reasonable search function of its own instead of the bizarre thread/date/author organization. If possible, I'd also like to avoid getting multiple hits for a single post. (As an aside, does anyone ever get any use out of the archive using that web interface at redhat? I guess I could drill right down to the right post if I remembered who wrote it or what the exact subject was or when it was discussed, but I almost never remember any of that. And it's way too big for linear search.) Usually I attempt to search the archive by adding 'site:https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list' to my list of google search terms. Because I am getting lazy and would like to automate or simplify that, this thread got split off the googlesmithing thread. When I search for "googlesmithing" by itself, I get several hits (fcp.surfsite.org, www.mail-archive.com, linux.derkeiler.com, etc.), but none at redhat.com, which I had thought of as the official home/archive of the list. Was that my mistake? Maybe redhat is slow updating the archive? No, the googlesmithing thread is there (https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2008-August/msg02132.html) if you navigate by date. It must be that google is slow indexing it? Google does give hits at redhat's URL if you try some other terms. I just searched for site:https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list fedora and the youngest hit on the first page was from May 2008. Then I added a date restriction: past 24 hours = no hits past week = one hit past month = two hits?!!?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! past 2 months = 14 hits? past 3 months = 53 hits? WTF! Try another site.... fedora site:http://fcp.surfsite.org.... past 24 hours = 1 hit past week = 1 hit past month = 800 hits After this little experiment, I do not know whether to ask for thorazine or zoloft. I love both google and redhat, but sometimes ya gotta wonder. Could google be indexing only some of the posts? Randomizing their indexing? Excluding 'fedora'? Excluding headers, addresses, etc.? Could the age of a page be judged by something other than the age of the post it contains, so somehow posts that were created this week would somehow show up as hits in google searches only if the search accepts month-old stuff? Are any of these other sources (fcp.surfsite.org, www.mail-archive.com, linux.derkeiler.com, etc.) more 'official' than others? They at least seem like they might be more up-to-date? I guess that should be the topic of my next study, but not today! Dave -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
