> Some kind soul pointed out that one could get rid > of the demand by NM for a keyring password > by deleting .gnome2/keyrings/default.keyring > and then giving an empty password when requested. > > But that made me wonder what possible point > the keyring password could have? > Is it intended as some kind of security device? More of a helper. > As far as I can see, you have to be logged in to run NM, > and if you are logged in you can delete this file. Correct. > I might say the same about the KDE wallet system. > How does this make one's part of the system more secure, > since it is open to you to change the wallet password, > or even to make it empty? The point is you can't get the keys back. So if your machine gets stolen or borrowed all the passwords on the keyring are safe. I can blank the ring and set new ones but I can't get the old ones. At the point I've stolen your machine I can blank the disk or throw the computer into the sea so being able to blank the ring isn't an issue, stopping people getting the keys back is the point. > I live in an old house with hundreds of locks > on cupboard doors, etc, to which almost all the keys > have long ago disappeared. > It seems to me Fedora is getting a bit like that. The wallet is an optional key cabinet. You can if you want just stick all the passwords and keys in /etc/wpa/wpa_supplicant.conf (I think thats the file) if you want -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list