Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would ship. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface for 6 weeks. You could say I'm a bit miffed. Say whatever you want about Fedora being bleeding edge, etc, but this is by far the worst release Fedora and Redhat has ever done. As far as I am concerned, the KDE team has knocked the credibility of Linux, Fedora and the KDE team itself way, way back. I am very disappointed with the current state of the Linux desktop as demonstrated in F9. The people that allowed KDE4.0 to ship in F9 showed a huge lapse in judgement. Still upset about being stuck with KDE4.0, LG -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list