On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 20:02:10 -0500 "Arthur Pemberton" <pemboa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Seems like PulseAudio is the way forward towards reducing the myriad > of "other ways". What problem do you have with it besides that it is > new? As near as I can tell, they have reduced the myriad of other ways to the point that all you can do is stereo output to your primary speakers. If there is a way to get it to send the digital audio track from a DVD to the SP/DIF output on my motherboard, I haven't been able to detect it (which brings up another point - why do all "improvements" always come with absolutely no documentation :-). With alsa, it only took six weeks of searching to find the utterly cryptic way to get SP/DIF working: amixer set IEC958 unmute amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0 amixer set 'IEC958 Playback Source' PCM mplayer dvd://1 -alang en -ao alsa:device=hw=0.0 -ac hwdts,hwac3, So at least it is possible to do in alsa (though, of course, if I have a different audio device, I need different cryptic gibberish). In fact I've been detecting a disturbing trend in all the latest "improvements" - useful things that once worked, keep disappearing: improved GDM doesn't have any way to change the default X server options, so you can't remove -nolisten tcp or add -dpi 96 improved X server now always gets all its information from EDID (after ignoring it for the first 20 years), so now you can't override the screen size to change the default DPI or provide a mode line to run slightly less than 60HZ, etc. improved evdev X input system can't do draglock, thus making trackballs impossible to use without three hands (fortunately I can still disable evdev and go back to old crappy input system where draglock does work). improved NetworkManager won't run the same dhclient hook scripts or start early enough that you can have a functioning network when servers need one (fortunately you can disable NetworkManager and enable network and get back to the old crappy technique where things just work right :-). If many more things get improved the same way, it will be almost as big an improvement as vista is over xp :-). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list