Re: time/ntp[d]

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michael wrote, On 08/07/2008 10:47 AM:
On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 15:40 -0400, Todd Denniston wrote:
michael wrote, On 08/06/2008 11:42 AM:
On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 09:20 -0400, Todd Denniston wrote:
michael wrote, On 08/06/2008 03:56 AM:
It seems my clock is losing time but yet I have 'enable Network Time
Protocol' enabled and set to a local time machine. If I
<SNIP>
Password:
     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset
jitter
==============================================================================
 utserv.mcc.ac.u 193.62.22.98     2 u   14   64  377    0.303  369608.
3831.40

but it's still out:

mkb@veri:/var/log$ date
Wed Aug  6 16:41:41 BST 2008

mkb@veri:/var/log$ ssh michael@ratty date
Wed Aug  6 16:47:57 BST 2008

16:41:41 + 0:6:9 =~ 16:47:50 so it took you ~7 seconds to type the ssh over to ratty? :)
i.e., matches roughly with what ntpd is indicating.

it's 6 mins 16 secs diff and no, I did the second cmd within seconds to
show that there is a diff in times

Exactly what I meant.
offset (from ntp) = 369608 =~ 6 minutes 9 seconds
and it took you another 7 seconds to type 'ssh michael@ratty date'


try doing the as root (i.e., `su -` and then run the) following:
service ntpd stop
ntpdate && hwclock --systohc
service ntpd start
sleep 128 && /usr/sbin/ntpq -p
sleep 10
exit

okay, had to give it a timeserver but here's the o/p

<SNIP>
     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset
jitter
==============================================================================
 utserv.mcc.ac.u 193.62.22.98     2 u    3   64    7    0.537  1812.41
1353.83

Has the offset settled down yet? (i.e., dropped below 128)

BTW assuming ntpd is still running it might be interesting to run
date && \
ntpdate -d ntp2.mcc.ac.uk && \
ntpdate -d utserv.mcc.ac.uk && \
hwclock --show && \
date

<SNIP>
Wow that's a lot of interfaces.


yeah I thought that but I think that's all due to VMWARE

I hope you mean that there are VMWARE instances running ON this server, not that this server is running IN a VMWARE instance.

Reason: it is a known problem that OSs inside VMWARE are not able to keep good time with ntp.

<SNIP>
One other bit of info, if I turn off ntpd over night, the clock loses
time (new battery required?)

no, unlike MS, Unix system clock uses the frequency ticker on the CPU to keep time, which is independent of the battery backed TOY clock.
i.e., after shutting ntpd off run:
date;/sbin/hwclock --show;date
then after you have slept
date;/sbin/hwclock --show;date

I expect the time from the date commands to have drifted as you are seeing, but the time from hwclock will have drifted differently.
date -> returns system time
hwclock -> returns TOY clock time.




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Todd Denniston
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