On Jul 27, 2008, Antonio Olivares <olivares14031@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Nobody is claiming that they do not deserve credit, but many do not > want the pushing on of their agenda :( Exactly. And that's why they invent all these excuses. And they even fail to understand that the principles that led to the creation of all this software is the reason why all this software is available and functional, and that the alleged pragmatism pushed in its stead is just a short-sighted corrupted version of the underlying principles and goals. Several of the leaders of this separate movement have already come to that conclusion, but the effects of that nonsense still percollate society, unfortunately. > What would be excellent, is if someone can run David Wheelers SLOC, > http://www.dwheeler.com/sloc/ > and/or get the code > http://www.dwheeler.com/sloccount/ > Run it on Fedora build system and then and there, if GNU is found to be the greater of all, then and only then it should get its proper credit. Are there any volunteers? Given that I and others have already provided enough evidence that GNU is at least an order of magnitude larger than Linux in any distro out there, so I'd say the burden of pursuing this would be on those who believe it might lead to different conclusions. Meanwhile, GNU should get its proper credit. http://fsfla.org/svnwiki/blogs/lxo/2007-05-21-gnu+linux http://www.slackware-rn.com.br/~vuln/2007/07/19/gnulinux-or-linux/ > Those same GNU packages were born of BSD/SunOS/Solaris code Err, no. GNU packages didn't use any SunOS or Solaris code whatsoever, and BSD was still under the 4-clause license back then, so its use was severely limited because it couldn't be combined with GPLed code. > I just know that it has many wonderful people(yourself included), > that Brazilians are penta-campeon(five time world cup champions in > soccer(futbol), Heh, Don't count me in as a great soccer player :-) I'd embarrass my country :-) > I actually consider it strange that most of the western world got > independence from Spain, and only one country from Portugal, which > is your country :) That's mainly because Brazil got its indepedence in a mostly-uneventful discussion internal to the Royal family, whereas the rest of Latin American, under Spain's crown, actually had to fight for its independence, and AFAIK Simón Bolívar and others managed to gain independence for smaller pieces, one at a time. > They just want you to push on their agenda. What do you get out of it? Err... I happen to work for the goals I myself believe in. That's why I co-founded FSFLA, a completely autonomous organization. It just so happens to pursue the same goals of other FSFes all over the world. Good for them. What I get out of it is the feeling of correcting social injustice, of working to make the world a better place. That's why I do it. I don't expect to get rich or famous or powerful out of it, but I do hope to be able to look back at my life, or even at the end of the day, and realize I did something other than surviving, making money, and thinking of how to make more money. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} FSFLA Board Member ¡Sé Libre! => http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
