On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 3:21 AM, Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 03:02 -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: >> So, anyone who insists in naming Linux all of the GNU operating system >> used with the kernel Linux is contradicting the primary developer of >> GNU and the primary developer of Linus. > > And going along with how various distributions describe themselves. > Really, get over it. The meaning of the term has evolved. Go argue the > point with the distributions and the various publications that review > it. The users will call it what they do. They're not going to call it > GNU/Linux because you and Stallman want them to. You're the ones riding > on the coattails of other's success. > >> To get a working system you need a shell, compilers, a library etc > > Take note: "System" is yet another term that means more than just an > operating system. The kernel is the core, pun intended. Of anything, > it should get biggest name on the billing. Around that (and much of it > in the kernel), is the operating system. Around that you have a > computer system (the part that's actually useful to people). GNU is > trying to claim more credit than it's due. > So you refer to your car by engine size? You tell people you drive a 2.4 Liter car? For the record when explaining to completely clueless people what Linux is, they think Linux is one thing like Windows is one thing. They will say " You mean like XP and Vista right?" and you'll respond *sigh* "No, not like that...." or "Well, sort of but ...." Try explaining the concept of a distribution to someone who has no idea what your talking about and you will soon find that calling the OS Linux is really misleading. I don't care what you call it personally but the other side has a very valid point. The kernel is useless without the shell, compiler, etc... Like a car without wheels it isn't taking you anywhere I don't care how fast it can go, its useless hanging from a rig in the garage, its not until you drop it into a frame that it starts to resemble a car and then you still need wheels, steering wheel(shell?) etc.... -Max -- If opinions were really like assholes we'd each have just one -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list