On Jul 20, 2008, Thomas Cameron <thomas.cameron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > You don't see them making asinine demands that we go around calling > it Sendmail/Linux or Apache/Linux, do you? > Inflammatory language like this does *not* make someone more likely to > agree with you. :-) As for "demands", it's quite a misunderstanding to take the requests to correct the "asinine demands" to the contrary as demands, rather than as what they are: requests for cooperation, or at least respect, from people who are hopefully not enemies of the Free Software movement. Of course there are those who *are* enemies of the movement, or the FSF, or of RMS's, and who feel so strongly about any or all of them to the point of disputing the request with excuses that they themselves reject when presented as counter arguments. Nobody is telling or demanding GNU/Linux systems to be named as such. What I do, and what I know the FSF does, is to request people to not refer to the combination as just Linux, for that's harmful to the Free Software movement and unfair to the GNU project. Names that don't refer to any other minor component of the operating system in detriment of its major component are perfectly fine. >> because Linux is an even smaller part of Fedora than GNU/Linux is. > I don't think anyone on this list is claiming that Fedora == Linux. No, but some people claim it's Linux, rather than GNU/Linux. > I think what has been said over and over is that Fedora is a Linux > distribution. Exactly. > The vast majority of the community and the industry calls > Linux distributions just plain old "Linux." Err... Let's see... Debian GNU/Linux, Ubuntu, Fedora, OpenSUSE, gNewSense, BLAG, Insigne GNU/Linux... I don't see any "Linux" without "GNU/" in this list of names of GNU/Linux distributions. I'm sure you can come up with some examples of distros, especially commercial ones, that prefer not to promote the philosophy carried by the GNU brand, but, seriously, "vast majority of the community"?!? -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} FSFLA Board Member ¡Sé Libre! => http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list