Matthew Saltzman wrote: > Meanwhile, I use it when it works, and I when it doesn't, I try to > troubleshoot it and file bugs or turn it off and use the individual > tools that it tries to tie together. And I try very hard to be > patient... The basic problem with NM is not so much bugs as the lack of any documentation, or indication of what is wrong, and what might be done to put it right, if NM does not work. The NM developers must be perfectly well aware of this, and must have decided that their time is better spent introducing more features into NM than documenting those already there. One thing I will say for NM is that WiFi under Windows seems to suffer from much the same fate, or worse - if it does not work, the Windows WiFi troubleshooting wizard is completely useless. Maybe it is better to have no documentation than useless documentation ... Just to be a bit more precise, what I would like from NM is error messages along the lines: "The AP you specify does not accept your WEP code", or "There is no response from the AP you specify", etc. In the Good Old Days when memory and storage space was short "Error no 18374" was acceptable. Nowadays, inadequate error messages are just a sign of laziness on the part of the developer. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list