Re: Fedora 9 will not update

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Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:50:07 -0400, Bob Barrett wrote:

Because the problem seemed to be with yum, I didn't think all the stuff
I had removed was relevant.

Only with the full output one can draw conclusions. Some further below.

When running "yum list installed..." it said
had the two packages.

Correct, but during the "yum update" it shows whether there are
updates. And since there are updates for the two packages you queried,
it doesn't become clear what requires the old packages.

When doing an update, it said it didn't have them.

Because it no longer sees them if there are updates to these pkgs.

I haven't updated in some time because I thought the problem may be fixed
with a later update.

Please show:

  rpm -q yum perl-version perl-Pod-Escapes kdevelop-libs

(or package-cleanup --dupes  if yum-utils are installed)

Somehow I think you may have duplicate packages installed.
Some oddities in your yum output:

---> Package perl-version.i386 3:0.74-30.fc9 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: perl = 4:5.10.0-22.fc9 for package: perl-version

---> Package perl-Pod-Escapes.i386 1:1.04-30.fc9 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: perl = 4:5.10.0-22.fc9 for package: perl-Pod-Escapes

These two make no sense as the new "perl-version" and "perl-Pod-Escapes"
require the new "perl = 4:5.10.0-30.fc9" (note the release 30) and not the
older installed one (22). These packages are built from the same source
package. They belong to eachother. The dependency on the old 22.fc9
release does not come from the updated packages.

The same happens to several of your Perl packages. Please show
that you don't have multiple releases of those packages installed.

---> Package kdevelop.i386 9:3.5.2-2.fc9 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: kdevelop = 9:3.5.2-1.fc9 for package: kdevelop-libs

Same here. The new kdevelop (release 2.fc9) is seen, but an
installed old kdevelop-libs requires the old kdevelop although
there is a new kdevelop-libs (release 2.fc9). "rpm -q kdevelop-libs"
must not return two packages.

There are tools to help with duplicates ("package-cleanup --cleandupes")
or incomplete transactions ("yum-complete-transaction"). Also make
sure you've got the latest Yum ("yum -y update yum").

Your's shows the time as 04:51 AM. Do you get up that early, or stay up
that late? For me, it would probably be up that late. Thanks, anyway.

You're right:

[]# rpm -q yum perl-version perl-Pod-Escapes kdevelop-libs
yum-3.2.16-2.fc9.noarch
perl-version-0.74-22.fc9.i386
perl-version-0.74-27.fc9.i386
perl-Pod-Escapes-1.04-22.fc9.i386
perl-Pod-Escapes-1.04-27.fc9.i386
kdevelop-libs-3.5.2-1.fc9.i386
kdevelop-libs-3.5.2-2.fc9.i386

[]# package-cleanup --dupes
Setting up yum
1:openoffice.org-draw-2.4.1-17.4.fc9.i386
1:openoffice.org-draw-2.4.1-17.3.fc9.i386
6:kdebase-4.0.5-3.fc9.i386
6:kdebase-4.0.5-4.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-extras-2.19.1-15.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-extras-2.19.1-16.fc9.i386
kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686-173.14.05-4.lvn9.i686
kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686-173.14.09-1.lvn9.i686
lcms-1.17-4.fc9.i386
lcms-1.17-5.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-canvas-2.22.1-2.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-canvas-2.22.0-2.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-bonobo-2.22.0-2.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-bonobo-2.22.1-2.fc9.i386
1:openoffice.org-writer-2.4.1-17.4.fc9.i386
1:openoffice.org-writer-2.4.1-17.3.fc9.i386
kdesdk-libs-4.0.5-3.fc9.i386
kdesdk-libs-4.0.5-2.fc9.i386
1:qt-devel-4.3.5-2.fc9.i386
1:qt-devel-4.3.5-1.fc9.i386
totem-nautilus-2.23.2-4.fc9.i386
totem-nautilus-2.23.2-2.fc9.i386
1:openoffice.org-graphicfilter-2.4.1-17.4.fc9.i386
1:openoffice.org-graphicfilter-2.4.1-17.3.fc9.i386
selinux-policy-targeted-3.3.1-69.fc9.noarch
selinux-policy-targeted-3.3.1-64.fc9.noarch
libraw1394-1.3.0-6.fc9.i386
libraw1394-1.3.0-7.fc9.i386
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173.14.09-1.lvn9.i386
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173.14.05-1.lvn9.i386
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-173.14.09-1.lvn9.i386
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-173.14.05-1.lvn9.i386
db4-devel-4.6.21-5.fc9.i386
db4-devel-4.6.21-6.fc9.i386
libdrm-devel-2.4.0-0.13.fc9.i386
libdrm-devel-2.4.0-0.11.fc9.i386
db4-4.6.21-6.fc9.i386
db4-4.6.21-5.fc9.i386
ruby-libs-1.8.6.230-2.fc9.i386
ruby-libs-1.8.6.114-1.fc9.i386
ffmpeg-libs-0.4.9-0.45.20080113.lvn9.i386
ffmpeg-libs-0.4.9-0.46.20080225.lvn9.i386
yelp-2.22.1-3.fc9.i386
yelp-2.22.1-1.fc9.i386
libquicktime-1.0.2-3.lvn9.i386
libquicktime-1.0.2-2.lvn9.i386
bluez-utils-cups-3.30-2.fc9.i386
bluez-utils-cups-3.32-1.fc9.i386
kmod-nvidia-173.14.05-4.lvn9.i686
kmod-nvidia-173.14.09-1.lvn9.i686
1:openoffice.org-impress-2.4.1-17.3.fc9.i386
1:openoffice.org-impress-2.4.1-17.4.fc9.i386
selinux-policy-3.3.1-69.fc9.noarch
selinux-policy-3.3.1-64.fc9.noarch
totem-2.23.2-4.fc9.i386
totem-2.23.2-2.fc9.i386
words-3.0-12.fc7.noarch
words-3.0-12.1.fc9.noarch
hdf5-1.8.0-1.fc9.i386
hdf5-1.8.1-1.fc9.i386
postgresql-libs-8.3.3-1.fc9.i386
postgresql-libs-8.3.3-2.fc9.i386
1:perl-Module-Pluggable-3.60-22.fc9.i386
1:perl-Module-Pluggable-3.60-27.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-gtkhtml2-2.19.1-15.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-gtkhtml2-2.19.1-16.fc9.i386
1:openoffice.org-math-2.4.1-17.3.fc9.i386
1:openoffice.org-math-2.4.1-17.4.fc9.i386
1:perl-Pod-Escapes-1.04-22.fc9.i386
1:perl-Pod-Escapes-1.04-27.fc9.i386
bluez-utils-alsa-3.32-1.fc9.i386
bluez-utils-alsa-3.30-2.fc9.i386
devhelp-0.19.1-2.fc9.i386
devhelp-0.19.1-1.fc9.i386
curl-7.18.1-1.fc9.i386
curl-7.18.2-1.fc9.i386
nautilus-sendto-0.14.0-1.fc9.i386
nautilus-sendto-1.0.0-1.fc9.i386
ruby-1.8.6.230-2.fc9.i386
ruby-1.8.6.114-1.fc9.i386
gtkmm24-2.12.7-1.fc9.i386
gtkmm24-2.12.5-1.fc9.i386
db4-cxx-4.6.21-5.fc9.i386
db4-cxx-4.6.21-6.fc9.i386
lcms-libs-1.17-5.fc9.i386
lcms-libs-1.17-4.fc9.i386
1:openoffice.org-xsltfilter-2.4.1-17.3.fc9.i386
1:openoffice.org-xsltfilter-2.4.1-17.4.fc9.i386
1:qt-4.3.5-2.fc9.i386
1:qt-4.3.5-1.fc9.i386
libdrm-2.4.0-0.11.fc9.i386
libdrm-2.4.0-0.13.fc9.i386
totem-gstreamer-2.23.2-2.fc9.i386
totem-gstreamer-2.23.2-4.fc9.i386
1:wpa_supplicant-0.6.3-6.fc9.i386
1:wpa_supplicant-0.6.3-5.fc9.i386
9:kdevelop-devel-3.5.2-2.fc9.i386
9:kdevelop-devel-3.5.2-1.fc9.i386
1:qt-x11-4.3.5-2.fc9.i386
1:qt-x11-4.3.5-1.fc9.i386
1:openoffice.org-calc-2.4.1-17.4.fc9.i386
1:openoffice.org-calc-2.4.1-17.3.fc9.i386
ksysguardd-4.0.5-3.fc9.i386
ksysguardd-4.0.5-1.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-gconf-2.22.1-2.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-gconf-2.22.0-2.fc9.i386
9:kdevelop-libs-3.5.2-1.fc9.i386
9:kdevelop-libs-3.5.2-2.fc9.i386
6:kdebase-devel-4.0.5-3.fc9.i386
6:kdebase-devel-4.0.5-4.fc9.i386
kdesdk-devel-4.0.5-2.fc9.i386
kdesdk-devel-4.0.5-3.fc9.i386
rhythmbox-0.11.5-13.fc9.i386
rhythmbox-0.11.5-12.fc9.i386
6:kdebase-libs-4.0.5-3.fc9.i386
6:kdebase-libs-4.0.5-4.fc9.i386
ruby-libart2-0.17.0-0.1.rc1.fc9.i386
ruby-libart2-0.17.0-0.2.rc1.fc9.i386
1:openoffice.org-core-2.4.1-17.4.fc9.i386
1:openoffice.org-core-2.4.1-17.3.fc9.i386
hal-info-20080607-1.fc9.noarch
hal-info-20080508-1.fc9.noarch
totem-xine-2.23.2-4.fc9.i386
totem-xine-2.23.2-2.fc9.i386
kdesdk-utils-4.0.5-2.fc9.i386
kdesdk-utils-4.0.5-3.fc9.i386
libcurl-devel-7.18.1-1.fc9.i386
libcurl-devel-7.18.2-1.fc9.i386
compiz-0.7.6-2.fc9.i386
compiz-0.7.2-3.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-gnomevfs-2.22.0-2.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-gnomevfs-2.22.1-2.fc9.i386
libsysfs-2.1.0-4.fc9.i386
libsysfs-2.1.0-3.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-libegg-2.19.1-15.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-libegg-2.19.1-16.fc9.i386
bluez-utils-3.30-2.fc9.i386
bluez-utils-3.32-1.fc9.i386
3:perl-version-0.74-22.fc9.i386
3:perl-version-0.74-27.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-2.22.1-2.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-2.22.0-2.fc9.i386
libcompizconfig-0.7.2-1.fc9.i386
libcompizconfig-0.7.6-1.fc9.i386
libcurl-7.18.1-1.fc9.i386
libcurl-7.18.2-1.fc9.i386

[]# package-cleanup --cleandupes
Setting up yum
I will remove the following old duplicate packages:
1:openoffice.org-draw-2.4.1-17.3.fc9.i386
6:kdebase-4.0.5-3.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-extras-2.19.1-15.fc9.i386
kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686-173.14.05-4.lvn9.i686
lcms-1.17-4.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-canvas-2.22.0-2.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-bonobo-2.22.0-2.fc9.i386
1:openoffice.org-writer-2.4.1-17.3.fc9.i386
kdesdk-libs-4.0.5-2.fc9.i386
1:qt-devel-4.3.5-1.fc9.i386
totem-nautilus-2.23.2-2.fc9.i386
1:openoffice.org-graphicfilter-2.4.1-17.3.fc9.i386
selinux-policy-targeted-3.3.1-64.fc9.noarch
libraw1394-1.3.0-6.fc9.i386
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173.14.05-1.lvn9.i386
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-173.14.05-1.lvn9.i386
db4-devel-4.6.21-5.fc9.i386
libdrm-devel-2.4.0-0.11.fc9.i386
db4-4.6.21-5.fc9.i386
ruby-libs-1.8.6.114-1.fc9.i386
ffmpeg-libs-0.4.9-0.45.20080113.lvn9.i386
yelp-2.22.1-1.fc9.i386
libquicktime-1.0.2-2.lvn9.i386
bluez-utils-cups-3.30-2.fc9.i386
kmod-nvidia-173.14.05-4.lvn9.i686
1:openoffice.org-impress-2.4.1-17.3.fc9.i386
selinux-policy-3.3.1-64.fc9.noarch
totem-2.23.2-2.fc9.i386
words-3.0-12.fc7.noarch
hdf5-1.8.0-1.fc9.i386
postgresql-libs-8.3.3-1.fc9.i386
1:perl-Module-Pluggable-3.60-22.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-gtkhtml2-2.19.1-15.fc9.i386
1:openoffice.org-math-2.4.1-17.3.fc9.i386
1:perl-Pod-Escapes-1.04-22.fc9.i386
bluez-utils-alsa-3.30-2.fc9.i386
devhelp-0.19.1-1.fc9.i386
curl-7.18.1-1.fc9.i386
nautilus-sendto-0.14.0-1.fc9.i386
ruby-1.8.6.114-1.fc9.i386
gtkmm24-2.12.5-1.fc9.i386
db4-cxx-4.6.21-5.fc9.i386
lcms-libs-1.17-4.fc9.i386
1:openoffice.org-xsltfilter-2.4.1-17.3.fc9.i386
1:qt-4.3.5-1.fc9.i386
libdrm-2.4.0-0.11.fc9.i386
totem-gstreamer-2.23.2-2.fc9.i386
1:wpa_supplicant-0.6.3-5.fc9.i386
9:kdevelop-devel-3.5.2-1.fc9.i386
1:qt-x11-4.3.5-1.fc9.i386
1:openoffice.org-calc-2.4.1-17.3.fc9.i386
ksysguardd-4.0.5-1.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-gconf-2.22.0-2.fc9.i386
9:kdevelop-libs-3.5.2-1.fc9.i386
6:kdebase-devel-4.0.5-3.fc9.i386
kdesdk-devel-4.0.5-2.fc9.i386
rhythmbox-0.11.5-12.fc9.i386
6:kdebase-libs-4.0.5-3.fc9.i386
ruby-libart2-0.17.0-0.1.rc1.fc9.i386
1:openoffice.org-core-2.4.1-17.3.fc9.i386
hal-info-20080508-1.fc9.noarch
totem-xine-2.23.2-2.fc9.i386
kdesdk-utils-4.0.5-2.fc9.i386
libcurl-devel-7.18.1-1.fc9.i386
compiz-0.7.2-3.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-gnomevfs-2.22.0-2.fc9.i386
libsysfs-2.1.0-3.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-libegg-2.19.1-15.fc9.i386
bluez-utils-3.30-2.fc9.i386
3:perl-version-0.74-22.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-2.22.0-2.fc9.i386
libcompizconfig-0.7.2-1.fc9.i386
libcurl-7.18.1-1.fc9.i386
Is this ok [y/N]: y

mv: cannot stat `/etc/modprobe.conf': No such file or directory
grep: /etc/modprobe.conf.backup-nvidia: No such file or directory

[]$ ls -lad /etc/mod*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2008-07-11 13:57 /etc/modprobe.conf
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-06-27 12:53 /etc/modprobe.d

[]$ ls -la /etc/modprobe.d/
total 48
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-06-27 12:53 .
drwxr-xr-x 124 root root 12288 2008-07-11 13:58 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 52 2008-05-31 11:45 anaconda
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 810 2008-04-01 10:51 blacklist
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16 2008-01-04 03:43 blacklist-visor
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 26 2008-05-06 06:35 floppy-pnp
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 177 2008-06-17 19:25 i915modeset
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5766 2008-05-01 14:12 modprobe.conf.dist
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 70 2008-06-20 13:40 nvidia

[]# yum -y update yum
Loaded plugins: aliases, allowdowngrade, changelog, downloadonly, fastestmirror,
: fedorakmod, filter-data, kernel-module, keys, list-data, merge-
: conf, presto, priorities, protect-packages, protectbase,
: refresh-packagekit, refresh-updatesd, security, tmprepo,
: tsflags, upgrade-helper, verify, versionlock
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
* livna: mirrors.tummy.com
* fedora: ftp.uci.edu
* adobe-linux-i386: linuxdownload.adobe.com
* updates: ftp.uci.edu
Setting up and reading Presto delta metadata
livna | 2.1 kB 00:00
No Presto metadata available for livna
fedora | 2.4 kB 00:04
No Presto metadata available for fedora
adobe-linux-i386 | 951 B 00:00
No Presto metadata available for adobe-linux-i386
updates | 2.3 kB 00:00
No Presto metadata available for updates
0 packages excluded due to repository protections
Reading version lock configuration
Skipping security plugin, no data
Skipping filters plugin, no data
Setting up Update Process
Could not find update match for yum
No Packages marked for Update

[]# man yum

[]# yum makecache
Loaded plugins: aliases, allowdowngrade, changelog, downloadonly, fastestmirror,
: fedorakmod, filter-data, kernel-module, keys, list-data, merge-
: conf, presto, priorities, protect-packages, protectbase,
: refresh-packagekit, refresh-updatesd, security, tmprepo,
: tsflags, upgrade-helper, verify, versionlock
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
* livna: mirrors.tummy.com
* fedora: linux.nssl.noaa.gov
* adobe-linux-i386: linuxdownload.adobe.com
* updates: ftp.uci.edu
Setting up and reading Presto delta metadata
livna | 2.1 kB 00:00
No Presto metadata available for livna
fedora | 2.4 kB 00:00
No Presto metadata available for fedora
adobe-linux-i386 | 951 B 00:00
No Presto metadata available for adobe-linux-i386
updates | 2.3 kB 00:00
No Presto metadata available for updates
Metadata Cache Created

Maybe I need to remove and reinstall yum, but I really hesitate to
remove software with yum.

A few releases back, I had installed a lot of extra software, and had
setup yum.conf to assume yes, and forgot to set it back. A few days
later, I needed to remove totem to install totem-xine, forgot about the
"assume yes" and removed all of KDE, as well.

Maybe I need to remove and reinstall Fedora 9. If I do, I'll download
the system, myself, instead of buying the DVD.

I'm not new to Linux, but I've had a lot more experience with Slackware.
Newer kernels and yum for easier updates are a plus, but this is a mess.

Thanks for your help,
Bob

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