On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:02:08 +0000, I Beartooth wrote: >> On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 02:20:14 +0200, Björn Persson wrote: >> [...] >>> I don't understand it either but similar things happen to me. If I >>> boot into runlevel 5 I only get a black screen. If I boot into >>> runlevel 3, log in as root and run "init 5 ; exit", then X starts just >>> fine. I've described the problem here: >>> >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=448340 >> [....] > There it stopped, and gave root's prompt back. I logged out, and > back in as user; commanded startx; it sat there ten or twenty seconds > with the monitor showing shaded horizontal gray bands; and then came up > almost normally. > > xorg.conf now says it was created by system-config-display; and > the videocard driver is set to nv. > > The apps I had left on when shutting down were all or almost all > in the upper left workspace, and my gnome terminal had only one tab and > was not quite the right size nor in quite the right place. But otherwise > it seemed normal, except that privoxy wasn't running. > > Now I'll go try machine #1, which has a VIA card -- and which, > yesterday or the day before, I had tried yet again to upgrade from F8 to > F9 -- successfully, this time, at last, afaict (except that it had not > been through a reboot). I'll make those results a separate post, when I > have them. Stay tuned. I'm now on the other machine; the Persson method worked here -- or mostly did. I can get my remote email, and the browsers I've checked so far can get to some, but not all, of the sites they had at shutdown yesterday. I have checked that both xinetd and privoxy are running; and the error messages I get on the unreached sites are not privoxy messages, anyway, but "Address not found," apparently from the browser. At least one of them (a trail & hiking forum) does come up, and let me participate, on Firefox but not on Galeon. I'll keep trying a little longer, in hopes of a clue to whether the trouble is in Galeon a/o other browsers, or in F9, or my hardware -- or at my local access provider. Meanwhile, Frank Murphy has kindly emailed a whole xorg.conf designed specifically for this monitor. I have moved the old one out of the way, and created a new one copied from his email. I'll log out and back in in a little while, and report how it does. -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6; nine (count 'em -- nine) different browsers Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list