On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:24 AM, stan <goedigi89__e@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Joonas Sarajärvi wrote: >> >> 2008/7/7, pds <pds100@xxxxxxxxx>: >> >>> >>> On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:13:01 -0500 >>> Rex Dieter <rdieter@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> pds wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> When features are in KDE3.5 work better than the newer version, >>>>> I'll ask for the older version back anytime. You want specific >>>>> examples: >>>>> >>>> >>>> And there are a multitude of specific examples where kde4 is better. >>>> This is certainly not constructive feedback. Sigh, if you like kde3, >>>> fine, stick with Fedora 8. >>>> >>> >>> It's about choice, NOT what is better about KDE4 its more about what >>> is MISSING! If you can't understand that some users work in a specific >>> way or need to work in a specific way then..... >>> >>> There could be other reason why I want or might even need Fedora 9, but >>> that is my choice. I would like a choice at least better KDE3.5 and KDE >>> 4.x until 4.x has all the features of 3.5. >>> >> >> Who determines the moment when KDE 4 has all the features of KDE 3.5? >> KDE 4 series is so different from KDE 3 that people will keep >> discovering "missing" things in KDE 4 for years. >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I also think a complete previous revision should be supplied until >>>>> the next revision is functionally equivalent. This will give USER >>>>> the choice >>>>> >>>> >>>> Please read the FAQ again. I would *love* to be able to provide just >>>> that, and asked developers point-blank if this is something >>>> possible(1) or supported. Answer was no. >>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/KDE4FAQ >>>> >>>> (1) without horrible hacks or FHS violations. >>>> >>> >>> Hmmm.... The FAQ provide some information, but not exactly what I was >>> asking. What I really read was, that there was not enough resources >>> to provide both KDE3.5 and KDE4.0 with ONLY one installed at a time. >>> I didn't ask to have both kde4 & kde3 installed at the same time. Yes, >>> there will always be ways to shoot yourself in the foot. >>> >> >> That could have been possible, but it would have taken a great load of >> effort to keep maintaining two different, conflicting sets of KDE >> packages. It would also probably have been very problematic when one >> happens to have packages from both the sets. >> >> >>> >>> I'll consider this dead since there was a conscious decision to force >>> this issue. I'll look at other distros or methods or means to obtain >>> the features I need. so long... >>> >> >> It's good that there are dozens of distributions shipping a very >> polished KDE 3.5 desktop, so that you can keep using it... for now. >> Gradually most of the distributions will stop supporting KDE 3 series. >> Fedora has traditionally been a very forward-looking distro, and has >> done so at an early stage, just as they have done so on many other >> occasions. >> >> If your desires conflict with the objectives of the distribution you >> are using and you don't want to just put up with the differences, you >> are better off using an alternative, >> >> > > This was well said. > All those other distributions that use KDE 3.5 until forced to switch > to KDE 4.x will benefit from the (beta) testing that occurs in Fedora. So > if you are > complaining about KDE 4.x and want to contribute but don't want to invest > time in > helping the KDE team directly, submit bugzillas of the things that are > broken. That too > is helpting with development as you point out the things that are not > functioning. The > classic feedback loop. If you don't feedback, the system goes where it > will. Who knows, you > might even be able to influence the design direction. :-) A bug for the background problem was submitted to KDE bug tracker. > > And if you don't want to contribute anything, want other people to do it all > for you, well, you'll > have to wait. As Joonas, and others, have said, there are lots of > distributions and Fedora 8 > still using KDE 3.5 for you to use while you're waiting. > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
