I solved this issue myself, but thought I'd send this message anyhow. Indulge me. toss me a fish: There was a thread recently that discussed a problem whose symptom was that syslog died and the logs were deleted. Turns out that installing vmware had something to do with it. I thought I carefully saved this thread, can't find it now. I wanted to know how did OP restore syslog to good health? /sbin/restorecon /etc/services was the fish. teach me to fish: How could I search the archive at https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/ to find this, since I know not the thread, author, or date? I tried googling: site:https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/ vmware syslog And got a lot of hits from January and February. I constrained the search to the past two months, got nothing, which I know is wrong. Tried: site:https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/ vmware syslogd and hit paydirt. Yay me! Woe to the person who doesn't half-know the solution already - without the 'vmware' term in there, much harder to find the solution. And mahalo to the list for making me so utterly knowledgeable! Dave -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list