i am currently using f8 with most of updates install. not sure if ifup/ifdown is among them. i have a growing concern about operation of ifup and ifdown. i am noticing that when i 'ifdown eth0' is still see flashing of ethernet led on a 2wire 2701hg-b dsl modem. it was my understanding that using ifup and ifdown that this 2 commands would bring ethernet connection up and down, but ethernet led on modem is now making me believe other wise. just what do commands actually do? as 'user' what is/are better command or commands to use without 'su' or 'sudo' to connect ethernet to modem? tia. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list