On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 16:34 +0930, Tim wrote: > Try telling them that when a government decides that they do own you, > and that you must do this and that... You must pay us taxes or else, > you're drafted, you can't leave/enter a country without our say so, > these are the laws that will be applied to you, etc... There's a lot of > situations where you're treated as a possession. No kiddin', nor do you want to be there, either. Almost 1% of our total population is incarcerated, probationed or paroled. Think of it as being a "parenthood" issue. A functional family lives to meet the needs of their children. A dysfunctional family is where the children meet the needs of the parents. So, decide where the Power and Authority lies, and what is done with it ...functional or dysfunctional. But, once Power and Authority is assumed, it contains equal and attendant Responsibilities towards those subjugated. So, if we don't exercise our Power and Authority, someone else shall by our default. Ric -- ---------------------------------------------------- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar https://oar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 336-254-1339 ----------------------------------------------------- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list