on new laptop, with fc7 NetworkManager in charge couldnt get on network with wired connection to router ifconfig kept giving eth0 169.254.xxxx finally from google search on 169. DHCP Considerations DHCP clients automatically give their NICs and IP address starting with 169.254.x.x until they can make contact with their DHCP server. When contact is made they reconfigure their IP addresses to the values provided by the DHC server. An interface with a 169.254.x.x address signifies a failure to communicate with the DHCP server. Check your cabling, routing and DHCP server configuration to rectify such a problem. ok at least then i knew the 169.xx was a standard but i was prettty sure my wiring was ok basically dslmodem-linksysrouter- lanside - 2desktops static ips working for years, fc5 and an imacg5. But now the fc7 laptop also wired connecition, but trying to connect via dhcp which was evidently my problem. Maybe not surprising since I have been strictly static ip based up until now. It has been years since i did any configure steps on the router and i have probably misplaced any cd that came with it. So i wasnt at all sure at how to go about trying to "wake up" my router to dhcp requests I finally found in carla schroder linux cookbook a complete example for "setting up a dhcp server" which i used on the laptop, altho i wasnt at all sure this would help me "wake up" my router to dhcp requests. I put in following file [root@r3-mobile etc]# cat dhcpd.conf default-lease-time 259200; max-lease-time 518400; subnet 192.168.2.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; option broadcast-address 192.168.2.255; option routers 192.168.2.1; range 192.168.2.90 192.168.2.150; option domain-name-servers 206.13.28.12 206.13.31.12; } (As an aside, I would _never_ have figured out all of that syntax from the various dhcp,dhclient .... man pages) and rebooted the laptop I had to fuss a bit more: in order for eth0 to get its new dhcp assigned ip, it seemed to also require taking the ethernet cable out and back in. But now the laptop is on the net with dhcp working, and surviving reboots. Questions: 1)Is what i did overkill? I think it means i made the laptop itself the dhcp server. Its working, but i would like some feedback from the list 2) what steps would i need to instead try to kick the router into doing the dhcp? Several months ago my vendor had me jumping thru hoops using dhclient and some combo, including taking cable out/back in, eventually got the wired eth0 working. But then family health problemsetc intervened and I just abandoned the laptop until now. Any hints re use of dhclient? 3) any one else needing to take ethernet cables out and then back in to make connections come alive? any/all comments appreciated Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list