Some may have read about my recent discovery of the Dell Media Direct Button, if not read the thread "Hosed Grub with the push of a button " for a chuckle. The laptop is back in good working order now. The only hitch is that it attempts to connect to the access point before the user is prompted to unlock the keyring. So what I do is, immediately upon logging in, disable the wireless connection. I am then prompted to unlock the keyring a few moments later and then i reenable wireless and select the proper access point and presto connected, otherwise it fails to connect then you unlock the keyring and you get prompted for the password to the access point anyway and wonder why the keyring failed. A simple workaround for the user until I can find the time to tinker with it myself. More of an FYI than anything else in case someone runs into something similar and subsequently as so often happens blames the network manager or some other innocent service or program. It seems to be more a question of the order in which things load at startup than anything else. Max -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list