On Sat, 2008-04-05 at 08:30 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Sat, 2008-04-05 at 07:35 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sat, 2008-04-05 at 04:22 -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > > > On Sat, 2008-04-05 at 01:10 -0400, Ric Moore wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 20:39 -0600, dsavage@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > > > Does anyone know what would cause my Evolution client to suddenly lose its > > > > > ability to send/receive mail from my ISP? The "Send/Receive" button on the > > > > > upper tool bar is grayed out. So are the File -> Send/Receive and F9 > > > > > options. > > > > > > > > I've done that. Just look in the lower left hand corner and there is an > > > > icon that looks like two electrical plugs. If there is a red X between > > > > them, then it's in offline mode. Just click on it, and the plugs will > > > > close, putting you back into online mode, where you can send and receive > > > > stuff. I've done that more times than I can count! Embarrassing, > > > > especially after I raised hell on the list about evolution being > > > > broke. :) Ric > > > > > > Ahhh... That was it. The thorn in the paw of the lion. Thank you! (Why > > > on earth doesn't 'evolution --help-all' mention that little nugget?) > > > > A while back I complained on the Evolution list because suddenly Evo > > decided to start up in offline mode, even though I specifically > > requested it not to (via a Preference option). After some discussion it > > turned out that the problem was > > > > <drum roll .................> > > > > NetworkManager! > > > > I was running NM (without ever consciously deciding to -- it just ran > > without asking) but NM wasn't actually managing my wired connection, so > > it thought I wasn't connected. Evo took its word for it and thought > > "hmmm, he's not connected, better start up offline". It would sort > > itself out when I clicked the icon to go online, until the next time. > > > > The solution was to let NM manage the connection. I suppose an alternate > > solution would be to remove NM completely. > > > > I mention all this because it's a startling example of how two > > apparently independant universes (Evo and NM) interact. This is not a > > Good Thing (tm). > > > > poc > > > So you think thatt Evolution should come up in wired mode when no > network connection exists? Sounds wrong to me. No, I think Evo should come up online when the machine is online. Assuming that NM *knows* whether the machine is online or not is at the root of the problem, because in some circumstances it clearly doesn't. So either fix NM so that it knows the truth, or fix Evo so it doesn't rely on NM. poc
