R. G. Newbury <newbury <at> mandamus.org> writes: > HELP!...KDE 4 is a bloody disaster. At the moment, I have no KDE "Start" > icon, no panel, and worse yet, NO KONSOLE. I eventually found that I can > start an xterm, by using the 'Run' command, but xterm is not konsole. > The screen appears unstable too... It's not supposed to be that broken! Before you decide to kill KDE 4 outright, make sure you have kdebase and kdebase-workspace installed so you actually see KDE 4 the way it was intended to work. The kdebase package was split in KDE 4 (there's now kdebase-runtime, kdebase and kdebase-workspace) and upgrades don't always pull in all three pieces. And the easiest way to downgrade is to reinstall Fedora 8 from scratch. Kevin Kofler