Re: Why is F8 nm-applet Not as Good as the F6 Version?

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On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 11:41 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Rick Bilonick <rab@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > When I used networkmanager and nm-applet under Fedora 6, it made it easy
> >  to choose either "wired" or "wireless" networks. You just clicked which
> >  one you wanted. In Fedora 8, nm-applet does not have a "wired" choice
> >  (it only shows the wireless networks). So since I upgraded to Fedora 8

This is not my experience.  I see wired and wireless network options.
Wired ones are grayed out unless there is a wire plugged in.  If there
is a driver issue, you may not see wired and/or wireless connections if
NM can't see your devices.

> >  about 2 months ago, I have to struggle with networkmanager to use wired
> >  ethernet at work and wireless at home. At work I have to turnoff
> >  networkmanager (via services), kill wpa_supplicant and nm-applet and
> >  type in the dns (nm always overwrites the fixed dns) before connecting
> >  to the wired network. Before I leave work, then I need to re-enable
> >  networkmanager via services and allow networkmanager to control the
> >  wireless card (wlan0) so I'll be able to connect at home. It was SO
> >  simple under F6 and its such a mess under F8. Or am I missing something?
> >  I tried wireless assistant but SELINUX blocks it from running. I also
> >  tried wifiradar but it NEVER connects at home (even though I've given it
> >  the same info). At least nm works at home and at work using WPA when I
> >  need a wireless connection at work.

There is an NM update in updates-testing you might try.  NM is under
active development with several new features to come, including
connect-on-boot, better control over connection profiles, etc.  For
example, recent NM versions have an Edit Connections entry in the
right-click menu.

> >
> 
> So I'm guessing the NetworkManager upgrades aren't working on your end :)
> 
> Your experience is widely shared, prompting interest in programs like
> "wifi-radar" or "wicd".
> 
> On my system, I have just permanently turned off NetworkManager and
> used system-config-network to set up a few wireless networks that I
> use frequently.  Then start them manually with the old
> 
> /sbin/ifup myNet
> 
> This approach is not so easily adaptable to new environments, but if I
> really want to connect, I can see networks with
> 
> /sbin/iwlist scan
> 
> and then can setup accounts in system-config-network.
> 
> Note that s-c-n creates config files in
> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/.  Once y ou set up one wireless
> network, supposing it is called "eth1" by default, then there will be
> a file "ifcfg-eth1" in network-scripts.  If you copy that to
> ifcfg-newname, then you can edit that file and then start the wireless
> server "newname" instead of eth1.
> 
> Well, it is old fashioned, but liberating in a certain way.
> 
> Just now, I posted on the wicd thread, you might try that one, I don't
> know if it will be better for you.
> >  Rick B.
> >
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                Matthew Saltzman

Clemson University Mathematical Sciences
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