I really look forward to being able to use F8, however my luck is not so good at this point. (I am just getting to F8 as my desktops are CentOS 5 right now). I am having serious install and update issues with my Fedora 8 on an IBM A31p laptop. This has only 256M RAM but has been running Fedora Core 4 for years! An update from FC4 to F8 failed (I gave up after 3 hours). I would expect it to either fail or try, but not to hang working for hours.... In the past, I have reported very, very long update times from one Fedora to another (for example a laptop at home going from FC5 -> FC6 took 16 hours). I had hoped this was fixed.... Next, I tried an install, reformatting /boot and / (kept my data partitions and /home). The installer failed several times on package 1000 or so of 1200+ packages. On both tests, I had selected desktop packages + development packages + some other misc. packages. The installer also failed when I added in my IBM recover VFAT partition to the mount list. Notes: - I hope these issues have been resolved in anaconda.... - All installs were using the recover CD using hard disk install with the install DVD stored as an image on my hard disk. I finally selected just desktop, minimal partitions, etc., and F8 installed! During install, my USB mouse (Logitech optical wireless) was stuttering, but the internal trackpoint worked. Each time I moved it, it would pause, then jump. On the first boot, the USB mouse still stuttered and networking (e100) failed. I removed and reinstalled the e100 module, tried static IP, etc., but networking remained down (yet dmsg showed the NIC was up). I had to reboot yet again. Once it was loaded and booted, the NIC and mouse worked! However, yum update failed with an error "out of memory". I then updated just openoffice - this worked. I next tried doing a full yum update again. Again it failed, hanging the computer several times. After a reboot, a yum update would report that the yum lock still existed. Should the yum lock (/var/run/yum.pid) be cleaned out on a boot? One time YUM failed with "OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '//var/cache/yum/updates/primary.sqlite.bz2'" I am now trying to update in pieces but I keep getting missing files, including: yum update firefox: Package yelp needs gecko-libs = 1.8.1.8, this is not available. yum update Error: Missing Dependency: gnome-python2 = 2.20.0-1.fc8 is needed by package gnome-python2-bonobo I am now partially updated (kernel, openoffice, etc.). I have yet to install development packages, etc. This is getting very frustrating. Yum mirrors should be left in a consistent state so you don't get problems like this (very difficult for newbies or someone who is not familiar with yum). I have had this problem for years as well. Any help would be most appreciated. Sorry for the long-winded mail... -- Wade Hampton