On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 13:22 -0800, Knute Johnson wrote: > >On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 13:41 -0600, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > >> Knute Johnson wrote: > >> > Can anybody explain to me in terms that a Linux blivet can > >> > understand, why you can't do a regular install to a USB jump drive? > >> > > >> > Thanks very much, > >> > > >> From what I remember, you have to use the expert mode to install to > >> a USB storage device. I didn't check when I did the install of F8, > >> but with earlier versions, the installer would not see the USB drive > >> in the normal install mode. > > > >I have an F7 memory stick in my hand that boots fine. > >As suggested install using expert mode. > >grub.conf may need to vary depending on how the BIOS sees the drives. I > >have two machines that see the stick as a hard drive when you hit Esc > >during boot > >and select the boot device and make this hd0 > > > >> > >> It sort of makes sense, because you have to know a bit more to do a > >> USB install. If you are going to boot from the USB drive, using the > >> BIOS option to boot from a USB drive, then you have to tell Grub > >> that the drive will be hd0 when you boot, even though it will be > >> some other drive during the install. This is because most BIOSs will > >> map the internal drive(s) before the USB drives when booting from > >> anything but the USB drive. > >> > >> You may also run into problem of shortened life on the jump drive > >> with a normal install. (There has been a lot of debate on how much > >> of a factor that will be.) > > > >The latest memory sticks have wear levelling that solves this problem. > >Corsair Flash Voyager (GT) 8GB runs very well with F7 and KDE. > >It has static wear levelling and a 5 year warranty. > >I don't get the quoted 33MBytes/sec when simple test with hdparm. More > >like 25MB/s > > > >I just haven't got round to trying F8 but assume that it would be OK > > > > > >> > >> As another option, you can install a live CD image to a jump drive. > >> I don't have the link handy that gives the detailed instructions. It > >> gives you the advantage of lower ware on the jump drive. You can > >> also install to a smaller drive, because of the compressed file > >> system used in the live CDs. The disadvantage is that you have a > >> hard time updating or adding packages. > >> > > How does one get it into 'expert' mode? > If I remember right you hit TAB when booting from DVD/CD and then just add expert to the end of the line John