Whenever I try to run totem or rhythmbox, it * changes my root window background (to a dark blue background I assume is the Fedora/GNOME default) * starts gnome-screensaver, gnome-vfs-daemon, gnome-settings-daemon (which will cause my X session to hang hard if I don't kill gnome-screensaver, as it interacts badly with xscreensaver which I'm running.) * crashes firefox I'm not running GNOME, but a lightweight standalone window manager (9wm). Has anyone else seen anything like this? Is there any way to run totem, etc. without running GNOME? Danny. --------------------------------------------------------- http://dannyreviews.com/ - over nine hundred book reviews http://danny.oz.au/ - civil liberties, travel tales, blog ---------------------------------------------------------