On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 07:55 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: > Ian Malone wrote: > > >> Since this is Karl's thread, his problems with Nvidia and sound should > >> be famous by now and apply to any kernel modules. > > > > And, as always, he was told ages ago the way to get Nvidia working > > on Fedora and chose to ignore it until he stumbled onto it by trial > > and error. > > He was told different and conflicting ways by different people and > following different sets of advice broke things. Why should an > extremely common user requirement have to be satisfied by following some > random other user's advice from a mail list? As we can see by example, > this doesn't work that well. > > > I didn't follow his sound problems closely but they > > appeared to be with pulseaudio, which was designed to fix a long- > > standing sound problem, is not a kernel issue and, in any case, can > > be removed and F8 run without it. > > He tried to remove 'pulseaudio' instead of the obscure package name that > you actually do have to remove and it damaged his system. > > > Anyway, we've heard this axe ground so often I'm surprised there's > > anything left of it. > > Does the truth hurt? What's the problem with repeating it? I'd like to > see something resembling truth-in-advertising on the project site about > the expected user experience for the very common situations where a > vendor driver works better than the stock one or is needed to work at > all, the user wants to run java, VMware or a number of other 3rd party > programs, or the user expects to keep running without re-installing for > any length of time. I had suggested off-list that he try the nVidia supplied driver. Then he raved about how well it worked on the list. My guess is that he dinked with it and it broke. I have no problem with it at all and I happen to prefer it, for my own uses. I just set up an old Beta Max for my 75 year old Uncle. He had some original WWII footage on Beta and wanted to watch them. I warned him, don't fsck with it! Sure enough, two days later he'd push the damn buttons anyway. Now, it won't play at all. Think I jumped up to fix it? Hell, nah. I'm letting him sweat. Big time. Same thing. Hopefully he'll keep his fingers out of it the next time I fix it. <smirks> Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net <---down4now too ================================================
