Is there a way to configure NetworkManager to bring up the network at boot time? I find it remarkable that this Linux program defaults to treating a network connection as a service tied to a user. Shades of the evil empire of the northwest. I'd like my laptop to send me cron mail and keep synced with ntp whether I'm logged in on the console or not. Unfortunately wpa_supplicant is once again cranky in F8. Moving wpa_supplicant to the S09 slot didn't get it all working, hence my attempt to use NetworkManager. (Sorry if this is a faq. Googling this list is nearly impossible without some way to search by possting date and Fedora version.) -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/ IPv6 on Fedora 7 http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/fedora/ipv6-tunnel.html