On Friday 01 February 2008 05:22:39 Les Mikesell wrote: > Kelly Miller wrote: <lots of stuff snipped> > >>> Asking why 3rd party stuff doesn't work when they're considered > >>> outside the system is a little odd, wouldn't you say? > >> > >> No, I wouldn't say that. As with any other operating systems, I > >> expect to be able to run other programs on it. > > > > So do I. I note that I have no problems running 3rd party programs on > > Fedora. I generally just choose not to. However, things like VMWare > > work. > > >>> It isn't Fedora's fault that VMWare's sytem doesn't work with it; ask > >>> VMWare why, since the stuff is set up by them. > >> > >> When the same program works on one version of an operating system but > >> not on another, there's nothing to ask. The operating system has > >> clearly failed to provide a usable interface. No Les, Fedora specifically says it will be a bleeding-edge distro. It specifically says it will have a short release cycle and a short EOL. You can't have a bleeding-edge distro with a short EOL and have very stable interfaces. If you want stable interfaces then go for RHEL/CentOS or Debian stable. > > > > Did you mention things like this about Windows? Every version suffers > > from this problem. Just ask the people trying to switch to Vista. > > Security updates are still being provided to XP so existing users aren't > being forced to switch yet as they are continuously in fedora, and > there's a chance they will have it mostly fixed by SP2 time. In any > case I can deal with a change once a decade or so. But yes, I will > complain if any of my current programs don't continue to run or else > have push-button updates to fix them. > You try to buy a PC from Dell recently with XP installed. I presume most of the major manufacturers are the same. It's Vista or bust. Now lets see we had Windows-98 Windows-nt Windows-2000 Windows-XP Windows-Vista all in the last decade. That's not counting the home versions versus the professional versions. Lots of these had incompatibilities. A chance ;-) XP-SP2 hasn't fixed XP problems why should Vista-SP2 be expected to fix Vista problems. Tony > -- > Les Mikesell > lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx