-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I've got a new install of FC8 on a Gateway laptop (MT6451 Notebook PC) It's got an AMD Turion 64x2 processor. I'm not sure the KDE Control Center [kcontrol] is working properly. After I used a root session to: # yum install ksynaptics I was able to disable "tapping" via kcontrol > Peripherals > Touch Pad But when I tried to configure some keyboard shortcuts via kcontrol > regional & accessibility > keyboard shortcuts the changes didn't seam to work. Then I found the shortcut settings in: {menu} > system > personal > keyboard shortcuts And SOME of them worked. I WAS able to use Ctrl+Alt+Space to activate window menu. where I use the pull-down choices to resize, move, maximize, minimize or close a window. And I WAS able to disable the direct shortcuts {such as Alt+F4} for those functions. I WAS able to assign work space switching to Ctrl+F1,F2,F3,F4 And disable the direct shortcuts to switch to the workspace to the left etc... But setting Log out to Ctrl+Alt+Delete doesn't work. I still have to use Alt+F1 > "move sideways to System" > "move vertically to log out" I wanted to disable automatic loading, playing etc of removable media. In the past all I had to do was: Alt+F2 > kcontrol > KDE components > Service Manager uncheck KDED media manager But with FC8 the KDE Control center indicates that ALL of the listed services are NOT running ???????? Even so, I tried unchecking KDED media manager but it had no effect. I did eventually find that I could: Alt-F1 > "move sideways to system" > "move vertically to hardware" > "move sideways, then vertically to removable drives and media" uncheck each undesired option (ALL OF THEM) on at least the Storage and Multimedia tabs. Though I note that when I try to play a music cd by calling kscd on the run prompt it didn't output any sound. So I did Alt+F1 > "move down to sound & video" Several players were listed, some of them worked. But what was not listed was totem, which was the default player that started before I unchecked the "play audio cd disc when inserted" box... For the heck of it I tried calling totem at the run prompt. It started but was unable to play the cd. Under Movie the play disk audio disc choice was grayed out. the play disk cd rom 1 choice wasn't gray but when I select it I get a pop-up that says totem was not able to play this disk. Please check that a disk is present in the drive. Yet if I recheck that "play when inserted" preference setting, eject and reinsert the cd, totem starts up playing the cd. Go figure... One of the players that was listed was a simple looking player identified simply as "cd player" that I'd almost like if I could call it by name at the run prompt but it's name wasn't visible. So I fired up ksysguard to look at the process table. Now considering that when I installed FC8 I unchecked Gnome and checked ONLY the KDE desktop, imagine my surprise to find that it's gnome-cd and that gnome-keyring, gnome-panel, gnome-power-man, gnome-screensav, gnome-session, gnome-settings-, gnome-vfs-daemo, gnome-volume-ma are all listed as running processes... (sorry for the truncated names but I'm not going to guess at the part I can't see...) NO freaking wonder kcontrol and kscd aren't working properly. EVEN though I selected KDE from the install dvd and expressly unchecked gnome, it seams that several key services are using gnome tools. This bothers me because I strongly dislike gnome. (I'd even prefer to run under a microshaft environment!) Can somebody please tell me how to get FC8 to stop using gnome, and let the KDE tools work properly? ############################################################# ##_if_you'd_prefer_an_clearsigned_".asc"_text_file_of_this_## ##message_as_an_mime_encoded_attachment,just_ask_me_while__## ##it's_STILL_IN_my_outbox_folder_._._._=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+;-)_## #gpg sig for: Joe (theWordy) Philbrook DSA key ID 0x6C2163DE# # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # ############################################################# -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHoi4XRZ/61mwhY94RAiOJAKCa7c1Jix62DnSQ0Bir9zc6UK0TyQCdGcbl xufaXqOeF4V8ak6KxalPOSs= =GF6E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- | | ^^^ ^^^ | <o> <o> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ ` J(tWdy)P | ___ <<jtwdyp@xxxxxxxx>> | ' `