On Saturday 26 January 2008 02:09:07 pm you wrote: > On Jan 26, 2008 2:35 PM, Dan Thurman <dant@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > F8, Fedora's native Eclipse, v3.3.0 > > > > I am having a helluva time trying to get eclipse to work. I had > > originally used the default eclipse installation when I installed the OS > > and running it came up at the time. As for updating Eclipse, I simply > > used Eclipse's software updater. But when I did that, I ran into > > conflicts especially dealing with Eclipse's 3.3.1 patches for which > > Fedora's eclipse is v3.3.0. What a nightmare. > > I wonder if its possible to fire a pop-up here that warns about the > dangers of using the eclipse update system on core packages. Two First, thanks for responding. Dunno if a proposed popup is a big deal... I mean if one wants to make a conscious decision to stay with Fedora's implementation or to go it non-natively, that is a decision one must make for themselves. > different packaging systems can cause loads of problems as you have > found out. I am guessing you did this update as root as it should not > have been able to 'change' your system files otherwise. If you didn't > do this as root, then my guess would be that its executing stuff from > your home directory still. Sticking with Fedora's implementation of Eclipse (v3.3.0), when you use pup or simply Add/Remove Software, you are asked to enter the root password so that the installation can proceed. From what I can tell the Eclipse stuff is installed in /usr/share/eclipse, /usr/lib/eclipse, and god knows where else. But this is for the BASIC packages from fedora and has nothing to do with Eclipse's updater at this point. Andrew told me that after that point, should you decide to use Eclipse's updater/installer - it gets installed in the user's home directory, somewhere in ~/.eclipse. I complained that Eclipse updater wants to install stuff in /usr/share/eclipse which is why it was bombing for me. I could not figure it out. Andrew says it does not happen for him, so why me? Bummer - this issue is left hanging in the wind. This is a different issue for now. I simply want to restore the BASIC Fedora eclipse so that I can get started. I am trying to stay with Fedora's version and not go it non-natively though I have done it for fun and it worked well, but that is besides the point. With F8, have not tried to mix and mash things consciously - I simply want the darn eclipse to work under Fedora but with all the amenities. > I would try the following to locate your issues: Now we are getting somewhere... > 1) Lets look for bad file packages: > /etc/cron.daily/prelink # clean up prelinking for rpm -Va Done. > rpm -Va &> /tmp/long_list # make a long list of all files that are changed. Done. > egrep '^..5|missing' /tmp/long_list | grep -v ' c ' | awk '{print > $NF}' | xargs rpm -qf | sort | uniq > This should give you a list of packages that you will need to > reinstall or check. + egrep '^..5|missing' /tmp/long_list | grep -v ' c ' | awk '{print $NF}' | xargs rpm -qf | sort | uniq =========================================== a2ps-4.13b-69.fc8 amsn-0.97-1.fc8 docbook-simple-1.1-1.02.fc8 docbook-slides-3.4.0-1.02.fc8 eclipse-ecj-3.3.0-30.fc8 emacs-common-22.1-8.fc8 erlang-R12B-0.1.fc8 gdm-2.20.2-2.fc8 gnash-plugin-0.8.1-6.fc8.1 icu4j-eclipse-3.6.1-1jpp.3.fc8 kernel-2.6.23.9-85.fc8 libswt3-gtk2-3.3.0-30.fc8 monodevelop-0.13.1-1.fc7 msttcorefonts-2.0-1 php-pear-1.6.2-2.fc8 python-2.5.1-15.fc8 R-2.6.1-1.fc8 tetex-3.0-44.3.fc8 tetex-latex-3.0-44.3.fc8 tomcat5-jasper-eclipse-5.5.25-1jpp.1.fc8 xorg-x11-xdm-1.1.6-2.fc8 =========================================== Well, at least it is not over 100 files, I am ok with it, haha. I am not sure what to do with the above files, so what is one to do with it? It is odd to me that: kernel-2.6.23.9-85.fc8 appears? This is a recent pup update as of yesterday - and it installed the new kernel: v2.6.23.14-107 as well as eclipse and a raft of other update files. At this point, I see TWO eclipse files: ===================== eclipse-ecj-3.3.0-30.fc8 icu4j-eclipse-3.6.1-1jpp.3.fc8 ===================== It is odd that I have never seen: icu4j-eclipse-3.6.1-1jpp.3.fc8 as part of the pup nor pm. I can try to install this one and see what happens?