It used to be under one of the ctrl-alt-Fx TTYs I thought. I'm trying to get iptables to log failures to troubleshoot some problems, and system-config-firewall wrote a config file that dumps kernel messages to /dev/console. I tried to 'echo foooo > /dev/console' and don't see it anywhere. So where does the output go? --bobcat ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping