On Saturday 12 January 2008, Tim wrote: >On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 23:20 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: >> In fact, my password, while longer than most, is about half the length >> of roots, which is so long its not usable with ssh or samba. For that >> reason, I wouldn't mind being forced to use roots password to sudo. > >That's what "su" is for, surely? "su" to become root, "sudo" to pretend >to be root. But that runs counter to habit since I also have a kubuntu-6.06 machine to maintain. There, unless you cheat on the kubuntu way, there is only sudo, no su, cuz they never setup a root password in the first place. Not too sure I agree with that principle, but the one time I tried to remove a root password I did have setup, I had to re-install to recover. I probably didn't go through things in the proper order, and even I was locked out. Thanks Tim. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Breaking Windows isn't just for kids anymore...