Greetings; F8 continues to confound me. Up till a reboot for unrelated reasons day before yesterday, I had dictionary showing on the kicker panel just to the left of the pager, showing only its entry text box. But somewhere that disappeared. I have added kdict back to the panel, but only as an icon with a magnifying glass to exec it, so its not quite as handy as before where all I had to do was click on its text entry box in the panel left of the pager and start typing. When enter was hit, it then opened the regular gnome-dictionary window to show you the answer(s). Can anyone recall how that was done before F8? Also, somewhere in the kdepim and kdepim-libs tomfoolery, k3b totally disappeared and I had to reinstall it. Also, nothing seems able to be put in the tray dock, kmix used to live there along with several other apps, but now only the clipboard can be seen living there. This was working correctly before the last kdepim & kdepim-lib update fiasco. Today, I went to run yumex, but it complained another copy was running. There wasn't. I rebooted, same problem. Finally I deleted /var/run/yum.pid and it runs. But it has now been through the mirror list looking for an updates: failure: repodata/comps-f8.xml from updates: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. filelist with a good checksum for the 3rd time. How long will it take to get all this synched again? And amazingly, that error message was copy/pasted from the yum error window. No idea how long that has been working but thank you very much, Seth & company! -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. -- Martin Luther King, Jr.