On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 08:36 -0800, Les wrote: > Next I turned off SELinux by disabling it. JOY!! the system works. > Why would disable be different from permissive (other than the > background window telling you the errors?) Over time a few people have found there's some cases where permissive mode doesn't permit some things to happen (and log them), it actually did stop them from working. It looks like you've found another. That's one reason why I, and others, will tell people that if they don't intend to use SELinux, at all, to "really disable it, don't just put it into permissive mode." Think of permissive as a test mode. And if you're not testing, you either have it on or off. -- [tim@bigblack ~]$ uname -ipr 2.6.23.12-52.fc7 i686 i386 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. ________________________________________________________________ The sky is not falling!