Installing mythtv-suite on my up-to-date f8 box, I get unresolved dependencies: libmp4ff.so.0 is needed by mythmusic PIL is needed by mytharchive. I was able to find a version of PIL on some mirror in .ru that was built on some surver in .de, but I'm curious why it wasn't found in the repository, and is it safe to use this mystery version. libmp4ff is another story. I could not find it anywhere, but googling for clues, it looks like this has been an issue for about two years, based on an Atrpms vs Livna vs Upstream battle http://lists.atrpms.net/pipermail/atrpms-users/2007-July/007625.html The original bug report from 2006 is http://bugzilla.atrpms.net/show_bug.cgi?id=832 Based on some other stuff I've found, I've eliminated almost all livna packages (except for nvidia ones) and disabled that repo. How are others handling this? Thanks.