Greetings; 2nd send, no reply to 1st. Trying to make synce work on my lappy. Its an F8 x86_64 install on an HP dv5120us Notebook. 1) the error message when trying to start the synce-trayicon is missleading as it names a failure to start dccm as a major problem, but parks itself in the tray anyway. 2) starting synce-software-manager doesn't complain, but doesn't show anything either. No pulldown config menu's or anything but the add-subtract etc buttons. Is this the correct behaviour? 3) I finally installed the smart package manager because the updater appears to have been dumbed down until it just barely survives. Using the search function of SPM, I find that the package is actually named vdccm, and is supposed to replace the dccm in the synce-kde package. Thats fine, but there is no 'dccm' in the synce-kde package. And all the vdccm stuff that's non-devel is installed already. 4) as user, do "strace /usr/bin/vdccm", which begins the failure stanza with a getuid() = 500 setresuid(-1, 500, -1) = 0 setresuid(-1, 0, -1) = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted) getuid() = 500 geteuid() = 500 write(2, "[int main(int, char**)53:] ",27[int main(int, char**):53] ) = 27 write(2, "Could not start - either because"...,90Could not start - either because vdccm is not installed suid, or you start directly as root) = 90 So I become root with an su - and repeat, and get essentially that same exact output but without the setresuid's -EPERM return, it and the following setresuid's are all = 0 this time: getuid() = 0 setresuid(-1, 0, -1) = 0 setresuid(-1, 0, -1) = 0 getuid() = 0 geteuid() = 0 write(2, "[int main(int, char**)53:] ",27[int main(int, char**):53] ) = 27 write(2, "Could not start - either because"...,90Could not start - either because vdccm is not installed suid, or you start directly as root) = 90 This does not appear to be an selinux problem, but a packaging problem, so how do I fix the already installed /usr/bin/vdccm? Its perms now read -rwsr-xr-x according to ls -l. And 5) will this fix the synce-trayicon since its error message says dccm, not vdccm? 6) what's the relationship to raki, do they clash and fsck things up fighting over resources? Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Veni, Vidi, VISA: I came, I saw, I did a little shopping.