Tod Merley wrote: >> Actually, I'm almost certain I wasn't running NetworkManager (NM) >> on the computer in question. > > Hi Timothy Murphy! > > Easy to find out: I don't actually have access to the laptop I was talking about at this moment. However, if I did I would have no difficulty telling if NM was running, or turning it off if it was. My claim is: when the laptop booted (without NM) it did not try to bring eth0 up, even though there was a file /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 . As I said, I am only 99% sure of the setup at the time. But I'd be interested to know if anyone else has had this experience (with Fedora-8). -- Timothy Murphy e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland