I have an updated F8 box. I did a fresh install preserving /home. I have a Sound Blaster Live! card installed. It worked fine under F7. I'm having problems with sound. As user in a terminal window: $ aplay -l aplay: device_list:205: no soundcards found... I get no sound. As root in a terminal window: # aplay -l **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: Live [SBLive! Value [CT4832]], device 0: emu10k1 [ADC Capture/Standard PCM Playback] Subdevices: 32/32 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 Subdevice #1: subdevice #1 Subdevice #2: subdevice #2 Subdevice #3: subdevice #3 Subdevice #4: subdevice #4 Subdevice #5: subdevice #5 Subdevice #6: subdevice #6 Subdevice #7: subdevice #7 Subdevice #8: subdevice #8 Subdevice #9: subdevice #9 Subdevice #10: subdevice #10 Subdevice #11: subdevice #11 Subdevice #12: subdevice #12 Subdevice #13: subdevice #13 Subdevice #14: subdevice #14 Subdevice #15: subdevice #15 Subdevice #16: subdevice #16 Subdevice #17: subdevice #17 Subdevice #18: subdevice #18 Subdevice #19: subdevice #19 Subdevice #20: subdevice #20 Subdevice #21: subdevice #21 Subdevice #22: subdevice #22 Subdevice #23: subdevice #23 Subdevice #24: subdevice #24 Subdevice #25: subdevice #25 Subdevice #26: subdevice #26 Subdevice #27: subdevice #27 Subdevice #28: subdevice #28 Subdevice #29: subdevice #29 Subdevice #30: subdevice #30 Subdevice #31: subdevice #31 card 0: Live [SBLive! Value [CT4832]], device 2: emu10k1 efx [Multichannel Capture/PT Playback] Subdevices: 8/8 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 Subdevice #1: subdevice #1 Subdevice #2: subdevice #2 Subdevice #3: subdevice #3 Subdevice #4: subdevice #4 Subdevice #5: subdevice #5 Subdevice #6: subdevice #6 Subdevice #7: subdevice #7 card 0: Live [SBLive! Value [CT4832]], device 3: emu10k1 [Multichannel Playback] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 =============================================================================== As a user: System -> Administration -> Soundcard Detection After I enter root's password, a window titled "Audio configuration" appears. It shows: Selected card Vendor: Creative Labs Model: SB Live! EMU10k1 Module: snd-emu10k1 If I click the play button in the sound test frame, I hear the sound. In the upper right-hand corner of the screen is the Volume Control icon. It has a red circle with a white X in it. If I click on the icon, a window appears with the following message in it: The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured. You can remove the volume control from the panel by right-clicking the speaker icon on the panel and selecting "Remove From Panel" from the menu. =============================================================================== If I go to a virtual console (Alt-Ctl-F2) and logon, I hear a sound. $ aplay -l **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: Live [SBLive! Value [CT4832]], device 0: emu10k1 [ADC Capture/Standard PCM Playback] Subdevices: 32/32 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 Subdevice #1: subdevice #1 Subdevice #2: subdevice #2 Subdevice #3: subdevice #3 Subdevice #4: subdevice #4 Subdevice #5: subdevice #5 Subdevice #6: subdevice #6 Subdevice #7: subdevice #7 Subdevice #8: subdevice #8 Subdevice #9: subdevice #9 Subdevice #10: subdevice #10 Subdevice #11: subdevice #11 Subdevice #12: subdevice #12 Subdevice #13: subdevice #13 Subdevice #14: subdevice #14 Subdevice #15: subdevice #15 Subdevice #16: subdevice #16 Subdevice #17: subdevice #17 Subdevice #18: subdevice #18 Subdevice #19: subdevice #19 Subdevice #20: subdevice #20 Subdevice #21: subdevice #21 Subdevice #22: subdevice #22 Subdevice #23: subdevice #23 Subdevice #24: subdevice #24 Subdevice #25: subdevice #25 Subdevice #26: subdevice #26 Subdevice #27: subdevice #27 Subdevice #28: subdevice #28 Subdevice #29: subdevice #29 Subdevice #30: subdevice #30 Subdevice #31: subdevice #31 card 0: Live [SBLive! Value [CT4832]], device 2: emu10k1 efx [Multichannel Capture/PT Playback] Subdevices: 8/8 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 Subdevice #1: subdevice #1 Subdevice #2: subdevice #2 Subdevice #3: subdevice #3 Subdevice #4: subdevice #4 Subdevice #5: subdevice #5 Subdevice #6: subdevice #6 Subdevice #7: subdevice #7 card 0: Live [SBLive! Value [CT4832]], device 3: emu10k1 [Multichannel Playback] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 =============================================================================== If I go back to my X-windows environment (Alt-Ctl-F7), sound appears to work. Double-clicking on the Volume Control icon, brings up a window titled "Volume Control: Playback: ALSA PCM on hw:0 (ADC Capture/Standard PCM Playback) via DMA (PulseAudio Mixer). Sound works. =============================================================================== I next logout of my virtual console session and go back to my X-windows session. Double-clicking on the Volume Control icon, brings up a window titled "Volume Control: SBLive! Value [CT4832] (Alsa Mixer). Sound works. Anyone have any idea how I can get sound to work without going through these steps to get sound to work. Thanks, Frank Merry Christmas