Greetings; That is what I've been doing but while I was on the road starting a couple of months ago, I'd apparently left a fwd stanza operational at gmail to fwd it to a spam-trap bypassing address at vz. Unforch, vz has their own private version of a spam filter bouncer that, in the last couple of months, managed to leave about 4500 msgs at gmail. And they won't admit its even there! I called vz and lawyered up on them based on Common Carrier FCC rules, and the filter got shut down about 10 minutes later, which is good, but the incoming headers still said it was being transported thru vz. So I logged into gmail with FF for the first time in several months and found the fwd kit. I don't recall doing it, but the info was correct so I must have. Hello CRS? :( So I killed the fwd kit at gmail and moved all the bounced stuff back to the inbox, figuring fetchmail would suck it and that would be the end of it. 4 things though, 90% of them are dups by the time they get sorted here, and fetchmail is reporting about an 85% failure to flush rate in the early part of the waiting msgs it processes in each new daemon wakeup. Toss in that right now, webmail says there's about 3350 messages left to suck after around 19 hours (with two power failures here of about 9 hours total duration), but when I set the verbosity up on fetchmail, it is only getting a much smaller number between 800 and 1300 for a msg count from gmail, and this number is refreshed to a new value when it sucks the last of the currently being processed list. Oh, 4th, did I mention its slower than molasses, probably because of spamc here. Is this "number of messages waiting" discrepancy mainly the disconnect between the webmail interface, and the pop interface at gmail, or do we actually have a fetchmail bug here? -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Now my EMOTIONAL RESOURCES are heavily committed to 23% of the SMELTING and REFINING industry of the state of NEVADA!!