On 16Dec2007 14:26, Nigel Henry <cave.dnb@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: | If you mean the annoying beep when the login screen comes up, I've just fixed | that by adding the following to /etc/modprobe.conf on F8. | | install pcspkr /bin/true | | See the man page for true. It's a bit sparce, but gives you the general idea. "man 1p true" is less spartan, but true and false are commands with pretty simple semantics:-) In the good old days, /bin/true was simply an executable _empty_ file. A shell would thus invoke a shell to run it, which found an empty script and succeeded trivially. A bit later I examined it on a SunOS4 system (I think). It was a file consisting of a big fat copyright notice. And no code or other content. So, some bloat. Later still, on an AIX system, I examined it. It was an executable. Bleah:-( On Linux its and executable too. I know this is fractionally faster than loading a shell to run it (though in the Old Days a shell was a much tinier thing too). But it still makes me feel... ill. And since true and false are built in to most shells, the /bin/true executable would rarely be used anyway. I suspect the real reason these days is that /bin/true must be a general purpose executable - anything must be able to exec() it, not just a shell. So the smallest this you could probably do is this: #!/bin/sh I will return you to your mainline beep discussion now... BTW, is it possible to disable the PC speaker but _not_ disable the headphones? That would be pretty desirable to me. And, under F8, has PulseAudio finally worked around the "browser-with Flash has stolen my audio device" problem? Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson <cs@xxxxxxxxxx> DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ This calls for a really stupid and futile gesture. - Strayhorn