On 2007/12/15 20:54 (GMT-0700) Craig White apparently typed: > On Sat, 2007-12-15 at 22:36 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: >> Sure, but / is on PATA hdc11 with only 13 partitions, so it shouldn't matter. >> F7 is on PATA hda11, even though hda has more than 20 total. The >> SCSI^H^H^H^Hlibata limitation/fiction shouldn't be impacting this. I need to >> find out somehow if ata_piix is ever getting into the initrd. > you are referring to PATA hdc11 but there is no /dev/hdc11 on Fedora > 8...that's what the link says...they're now all /dev/sdcXX It used to be that PATA was not SATA was not SCSI was not USB, and we could distinguish which was which by their names. Now since libata, PATA = SATA = SCSI = USB, and distinguishing which is which in discussion is anything but easy - unless made easier by referring to them by traditional names, which is what I did. PATA is no less PATA just because libata wants to call it SCSI. So, hdc3, even though it doesn't live in /dev on F8, does have a clearly understood meaning, while sdc3 could mean any of at least 4 things, depending on what's actually installed and the whim of udev. If it was up to me, Al Viro and those responsible for libata as SCSI aka screw backward compatibilty would be shark bait. :-p -- " Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/