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Today's Topics:

1. Re: User.py error reported on bootup (Tim)
2. Re: NVidia on Compaq presario and video output (Tim)
3. Re: list subject (Tim)
4. Re: root password timeout (Jacques B.)
5. Re: root password timeout (Tim)
6. Re: [OT] Re: David S Wiener is out of the office. (Kelly Miller)
7. Re: FC8/IcedTea Java Plugin/FireFox/R (Marc Schwartz)
8. Re: [OT] Re: David S Wiener is out of the office. (Tim)
9. Re: list subject (Les Mikesell)
10. Re: FC8/IcedTea Java Plugin/FireFox/R (Knute Johnson)
11. Re: F8 Network Woe (Tod Merley)
12. Fedora 8 i586 Anaconda issue resolved (Keith G. Robertson-Turner)
13. Re: Openldap Experts (Jyotishmaan)
14. Re: help request about NX1101 (or the IP1000) network card
driver (Phil Meyer)
15. Re: Possible Rooktit (was Re: It Works fine) (kalinix)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:57:25 +1030
From: Tim
Subject: Re: User.py error reported on bootup
To: For users of Fedora
Message-ID: <1197343645.2851.12.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 12:32 -0800, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> I cannot seem to be able to quickly capture the user.py
> error that is reported as it is the very last thing that appears
> in the bootup of services just before the X server kicks in.

You could try starting up in run-level 3.

--
[tim@bigblack ~]$ uname -ipr
2.6.23.1-10.fc7 i686 i386

Using FC 4, 5, 6 & 7, plus CentOS 5. Today, it's FC7.

Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.
I read messages from the public lists.

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:05:46 +1030
From: Tim
Subject: Re: NVidia on Compaq presario and video output
To: For users of Fedora
Message-ID: <1197344146.2851.17.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 20:59 -0300, Martin Marques wrote:
> A few months ago I had the unfortunancy of not being able to work with
> my Notebook and a projector which was connected to the video output.
>
> The thing was that, or I had the LCD screen to see, or the I had to see
> on the screen of the projector.
>
> How can I make my NVidia card work with both? Do I have to configure a
> dual head.
>
> I'm on F7 with livna nvidia drivers.

More *precise* details are probably needed before someone can help you.

As a counter example, I can plug an analogue external monitor into my
Asus PRO31J F3JC laptop, which uses a nVidia GeForce Go 7300 graphics
chipset, and play with a Fn key to toggle between laptop display,
external display, or both at the same time. And that works without
making any changes to my Xorg configuration.

In this case, they both show the same display. But if I want them to
operate independently, then I do need play around with my X
configuration.

--
[tim@bigblack ~]$ uname -ipr
2.6.23.1-10.fc7 i686 i386

Using FC 4, 5, 6 & 7, plus CentOS 5. Today, it's FC7.

Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.
I read messages from the public lists.

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:20:13 +1030
From: Tim
Subject: Re: list subject
To: For users of Fedora
Message-ID: <1197345013.2851.29.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 18:28 -0700, Mike wrote:
> While we're voting (ok I just decided we were voting :), I'd like to
> vote against [Fedora-list] or anything for that matter added to thte
> subject.

Supported!

Adding [crap] to subjects just lengthens things, so there's less space
to read the subject line on many mailers. It gets worse when you end up
with message subject lines like:

[crap] re: [crap] re: [crap] re: list subject

Thanks to idiots configuring it to be added before the "re" instead of
after it, and idiot list mail software not checking for its presence
before adding it.

'tis also against the RFCs to mess with the subject line (beyond adding
re or fwd prefixes).

Threading is not done by subject lines, but adding [crap] to the does
mess things up for those lumbered with doing threading the wrong way.
Changing a subject line also indicates new breakaways to a thread,
someone adding [crap] introduces such breaks.

I mention that for two reasons. The recursive crap I've already
mentioned, and some people who seem to be adding [fedora] to the subject
lines in their replies to this list which doesn't have [fedora] crap in
it to begin with. I haven't looked into whether that's users doing it,
or they're replying through a stupid gateway.

Filtering should not be done by subject lines. That leads to private
messages getting filtered into list folders by clueless users, simply
because the keyword matched the filter. Who then get umpty about their
private messages being made public, when they're not, they just *think*
that they are. Or they reply to a private message, publicly, because
they're unaware of it and their mailer auto-messes-with message
addressing based on the folder they replied to.

Filtering/sorting should be done on other message headers. There's
plenty of options with this list to pick one that unabiguously
determines a message belongs with this list.

In short, it's a bad, stupid, and completely unnecessary thing to do.

--
[tim@bigblack ~]$ uname -ipr
2.6.23.1-10.fc7 i686 i386

Using FC 4, 5, 6 & 7, plus CentOS 5. Today, it's FC7.

Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.
I read messages from the public lists.

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:52:18 -0500
From: "Jacques B."
Subject: Re: root password timeout
To: "For users of Fedora"
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Dec 10, 2007 9:57 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote:
> Where is the timeout setting for remembering the root password for
> various system-controlling applets?
>
> For instance, if you open system-config-network, it asks you for a
> password the first time - but then it remembers it for a few minutes.
> Within that time you can close & reopen the network config applet, and
> most other admin applets, as well. I'd like to make my computer timeout
> immediately, if possible.
>
> Also, is there a way to manually override the timeout (force it to time
> out on command)? E.g. if I need to quickly change a setting and then let
> someone else work on the computer.

I know in Gnome you can right click on the icon (badge/shield if I
recall correctly) in the top panel (by default that's where it is in
Gnome) and release root privileges immediately rather than waiting for
a timeout. Not on my Linux machine so can't check the other part of
your question.

Jacques B.

>
>
> BTW, I'm using KDE - but I suspect that these applets were written for
> gnome.
>
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:24:51 +1030
From: Tim
Subject: Re: root password timeout
To: For users of Fedora
Message-ID: <1197345291.2851.33.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 18:57 -0800, Konstantin Svist wrote:
> Also, is there a way to manually override the timeout (force it to
> time out on command)? E.g. if I need to quickly change a setting and
> then let someone else work on the computer.
>
> BTW, I'm using KDE - but I suspect that these applets were written for
> gnome.

In Gnome, at least, an icon appears in the taskbar while you've got
temporary root credentials, and you can right-click and keep them
longer, or abandon them immediately.

It's ages since I've used KDE, have a look if something appears when you
authenticate as root to use a configuration GUI tool in KDE.

I seem to recall that you could configure something to do with PAM about
the timing, but only through hand editing configuration files. But it's
been years since I read anything about that.

--
[tim@bigblack ~]$ uname -ipr
2.6.23.1-10.fc7 i686 i386

Using FC 4, 5, 6 & 7, plus CentOS 5. Today, it's FC7.

Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.
I read messages from the public lists.

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:01:33 -0500
From: Kelly Miller
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: David S Wiener is out of the office.
To: For users of Fedora
Message-ID: <475E0B9D.3020202@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

Nigel Henry wrote:
> Just a little question, but does anyone know who David S Wiener is, and which office he is out of?
>
> When he does eventually return to his office, he is certainly going to find
> some interesting replies to his "I'm out of the office" post to the Fedora
> list.
>
> Nigel.
>
>
I think that's kind of the point. If you're going to be out and set an
automatic response message, have the courtesy to prevent it from being
repeatedly sent to public mailing lists. Nothing is more infuriating
than having a list flooded with "So-and-so is currently out of the
office." messages every time someone posts something (I saw that idiocy
on W3C's public CSS mailing list once; boy, were the sysadmins PISSED
about it...).

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:02:11 -0600
From: Marc Schwartz
Subject: Re: FC8/IcedTea Java Plugin/FireFox/R
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

OK folks. Here is what I did to get the R java search applet working.

Note that this is on 32 bit F8, not 64 bit. Make any appropriate
adjustments as required.

1. Remove Iced Tea

sudo yum remove java-1.7.0-icedtea-*

2. Go to the java.sun.com web site and secure the appropriate JRE
download. In my case, it was:

jre-6u3-linux-i586-rpm.bin

3. Set the above to be executable:

chmod +x jre-6u3-linux-i586-rpm.bin

4. Run and install the above as root:

sudo ./jre-6u3-linux-i586-rpm.bin

5. Create the symlink to the JRE plugin:

cd ~/.mozilla/plugins
ln -s /usr/java/jre1.6.0_03/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so

6. Be sure that you have no Firefox sessions open. If you do, close them all.

7. In R, type

help.start()

8. In the new Firefox session, click on the "Search Engine & Keywords" link

9. Pay attention to the lower left hand corner of the Firefox status
line. If all went well, you should see:

Applet SearchEngine started

indicating that all should be well. Just to check, enter a keyword
(eg. 'plot') and hit the search button.

HTH. It is working for me here.

Cheers,

Marc Schwartz

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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:50:28 +1030
From: Tim
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: David S Wiener is out of the office.
To: For users of Fedora
Message-ID: <1197346828.2851.37.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 23:01 -0500, Kelly Miller wrote:
> If you're going to be out and set an automatic response message, have
> the courtesy to prevent it from being repeatedly sent to public
> mailing lists.

For what it's worth, I only saw it the once, here. Auto-responders
shouldn't send those messages to mailing lists, at all, really. There's
enough header information in this list's mail for it to be able to work
out whether it's a list or a person.

I wonder if the rest of him is out of the office, too? Maybe he just
has a hole in the wall... ;-\

--

Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.
I read messages from the public lists.

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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:38:10 -0600
From: Les Mikesell
Subject: Re: list subject
To: For users of Fedora
Message-ID: <475E1432.2030902@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Tim wrote:
>
> Filtering/sorting should be done on other message headers. There's
> plenty of options with this list to pick one that unabiguously
> determines a message belongs with this list.

But I don't want them filtered or sorted, I want to know by looking at
the group of new subject lines which came through lists.

> In short, it's a bad, stupid, and completely unnecessary thing to do.

Works great on the large number of lists that do add a [listname] tag to
the subject line, [CentOS] for example.

--
Les Mikesell
lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx

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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:48:46 -0800
From: "Knute Johnson"
Subject: Re: FC8/IcedTea Java Plugin/FireFox/R
To: For users of Fedora
Message-ID: <475DA62E.32322.E783E2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

>OK folks. Here is what I did to get the R java search applet working.
>
>Note that this is on 32 bit F8, not 64 bit. Make any appropriate
>adjustments as required.
>
>1. Remove Iced Tea
>
> sudo yum remove java-1.7.0-icedtea-*
>
>
>2. Go to the java.sun.com web site and secure the appropriate JRE
>download. In my case, it was:
>
> jre-6u3-linux-i586-rpm.bin
>
>
>3. Set the above to be executable:
>
> chmod +x jre-6u3-linux-i586-rpm.bin
>
>
>4. Run and install the above as root:
>
> sudo ./jre-6u3-linux-i586-rpm.bin
>
>
>5. Create the symlink to the JRE plugin:
>
> cd ~/.mozilla/plugins
> ln -s /usr/java/jre1.6.0_03/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
>
>
>6. Be sure that you have no Firefox sessions open. If you do, close them all.
>
>
>7. In R, type
>
> help.start()
>
>
>8. In the new Firefox session, click on the "Search Engine & Keywords" link
>
>
>9. Pay attention to the lower left hand corner of the Firefox status
>line. If all went well, you should see:
>
> Applet SearchEngine started
>
>indicating that all should be well. Just to check, enter a keyword
>(eg. 'plot') and hit the search button.
>
>HTH. It is working for me here.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Marc Schwartz

I have a couple of questions;

Do you have compat-libstdc++-33 installed?

Did you do the Xinerama fix?

Why did you take out iced-tea?

Thanks very much,

--
Knute Johnson
Molon Labe...

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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:49:16 -0800
From: "Tod Merley"
Subject: Re: F8 Network Woe
To: "For users of Fedora"
Message-ID:
<8b5e63cf0712102049q61d30538r3f3726910b189164@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Dec 10, 2007 7:44 AM, Jonathan Allen wrote:
> Dear List,
>
> I have a vanilla FC8 machine that was working into the Internet. After
> several hours fighting network manager, I edited /etc/hosts, /etc/resolv.conf
> and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 by hand and bob was my uncle.
>
> Now, after a a PUP run to pull in updates, I can't get the network to start
> after the reboot:
>
> # service network start
> Bringing up loopack interface: [ OK ]
> Bringing up interface eth0: [FAILED]
> Error, some other host already uses address 192.168.1.6
>
> Any ideas ?
>
> Jonathan
>
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>

Hi Jonathan Allen!

Try:

------------------------------------------------------------

System > Administration > Services

Un-check NetworkManager
Check Network (about 2/3 down the list)
Hit "Save" and close

System > Administration > Network

Select eth0 and press "edit"
select "static" and set up your static address - Hit "OK"
Choose the DNS tab and key in the DNS servers.
Hit "File" and choose "Save"
Hit "File" and choose "Quit"

System > Shutdown > Restart

-----------------------------------------------

Have Fun!

Tod

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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:53:37 +0000
From: "Keith G. Robertson-Turner"

Subject: Fedora 8 i586 Anaconda issue resolved
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Cc: fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

For all VIA or K6 owners waiting to install Fedora 8, Merry Christmas:

http://pilot.genomicscenter.nl/revisor/f8-i386-respin/iso/

Tested and verified. Uses Anaconda backport from Rawhide.

Thanks to Jeroen van Meeuwen and Bob Jensen at Fedora Unity.

--
Regards,
Keith G. Robertson-Turner

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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:56:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Jyotishmaan
Subject: Re: Openldap Experts
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <14268772.post@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Stuart Sears wrote:
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Jyotishmaan Ray wrote:
>> Hello All Openldap Experts,
>>
>> This is Jyotishmaan. I have
>> successfully migrated the users from the Fedora-Linux System To LDAP
>> server on the Linux-fedora again. All these users shows up on the GOOEY
>> (GUI) of the Linux Fedora.
>> When I tried to logonto the system
>> through this GUI, as "ldapusr" and "jmaan" uid's, i could not log onto
>> the system ie., the on LDAP server only.
>>
>> If i need to configure
>> the /etc/ldap.conf file. Please let me know. The transcripts of the
>> /var/log/messages are shown as below:-
>
> Hello Stuart Sears,
>
> Please look below for your reply:-
>
> 1. which (uncommented) lines are in /etc/ldap.conf at the moment?
>
> egrep -v '^($|#)' /etc/ldap.conf
>
> The ouput of this command is shown as below:
>
> [root@authdns ~]# egrep -v '^($|#)' /etc/ldap.conf
> host 127.0.0.1
> base dc=nits,dc=ac,dc=in
> ldap_version 3
> timelimit 120
> bind_timelimit 120
> bind_policy hard
> idle_timelimit 3600
> nss_initgroups_ignoreusers root,ldap,named,avahi,haldaemon
> uri ldap://127.0.0.1/
> ssl no
> tls_cacertdir /etc/openldap/cacerts
> pam_password md5
> [root@authdns ~]#
>
>
>
> 2. When you configured your client box to use your new LDAP server, how
> did you do that? Using the GUI?
>
> The client has been configured by running the system-config-authentication
> command and then configuring the ip address of the LDAP server machine.
> Other than this not a single line has been changed in the client machine.
> As of now i am trying to log onto the server machine where i am getting
> unsuccessful bind and failed authentication as per the messages in
> /var/log/messages file.
>
>
> If so, make sure you have enabled LDAP on both the "User Information"
> and "Authentication" tabs - otherwise you will be using LDAP as an NSS
> service like NIS.
>
> Configuration of the server was through-system-config-authentication
> command and the GUI as described below:-
>
>
> /usr/bin/authconfig-tui" as root (without gui), or by calling the
> call the gnome menu: system->administration->authentication?
>
> This worked fine in both ways.
>
>
> 3. can you run ldapsearch using that username and password?
>
> Please can you through some lights on this few lines of ldapsearch
> command.
>
> I tried usiing the following way:
>
> [root@authdns bin]# ldapsearch -x -W -D
> 'uid=jmaan,stornt=non-teach,bn=compcen,dc=nits,dc=ac,dc=in' Enter LDAP
> Password:
> ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49)
> after i typed the LDAP password of the Manager i got the error as cited
> above. Hwever i also tried logging onto the server using jmaan's LDAP
> password, but it didnt work.

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