David Timms wrote: >Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 12:26 AM >To: For users of Fedora >Subject: Re: F8: Package Manager - desktop stalled >Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> Daniel B. Thurman writes: >>> I cannot even access the F1 or anything to see what is going on. >>> >>> What can I do at this point except perhaps to do a forced system >>> reboot? Isn't there something I can do before attempting such a >>> drastic move? >> >> If you can't even move the cursor and your entire desktop is frozen, >> either your entire kernel, or X.org, has crashed. This has >nothing to do >> with the package manager. >> >> The only thing you can do is reboot. >That is if the kernel crashed. > >If x.org or something else is the problem: >- when you said F1 did you mean ctrl-alt-F1, F2 etc ? >- ctrl-alt-backspace should kill the current x session, causing the >logon screen to be shown >- it might still be accessible from the network over ssh; sometimes >using vnc might allow you to find what is going on, or at >least capture >screen shots, run top, check disk space, check external connectivity. >- next time you run package manager - start it from a terminal window, >in case it is providing some sort of error messages. > >DaveT. > Unfortunately, I did not try C-A-F1, 2, ... but it seemed that the entire system crashed - no disk activity, the screen appeared frozen, mouse dead. R.I.P. I cannot understand why Package Manager did not at least cause it even if only might have exaberated the symptoms. Dunno. I wonder if I "overloaded" PM by selecting "everything" in the package list that caused it to wheeze and die. I don't know. I rebooted and proceeded directly to PM, and did a "one package category at a time" selection and so far it is working, no crash, albeit very very slow. Maybe that is just because of massive MB downloads. Again, I don't know. Has anyone tested PM by trying to select "everything" and see what happens? Just a thought. I am just trying to get my system running with all I can throw at it. Developer's tools and all. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.15/1173 - Release Date: 12/5/2007 9:29 PM