Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: >> But do you need to use a serial port for uucp >> if you are not using a serial modem, >> which I take it very few people on this list would be doing? >> >> Do people normally use serial ports today? >> >> Even if you are using a serial modem, >> I'm not entirely clear why you need to have access to ttyS? >> In my case, at least, uucp runs as a cron job >> and conveys my email to /var/spool/mail/<whoever>. >> > The thing I think you are missing is this has nothing to do with > uucp the program. It is just that the default group ownership of > serial ports is uucp. I see I misunderstood Karl's question. (I often do.) I understood that he wanted to use ttyS0 _for_ uucp. Admittedly this seems unlikely, but on the other hand I find it reasonably plausible that Karl and I are the last two people in the world using uucp. > Now, if you need to use the serial port for > anythings as a user, be it dialing into some site with a modem, or > talking to another system, router, pint server, etc over a serial > port, you need access to the serial port. (Making a PPP connection > over dialup is a different case.) > > In my case, I use serial ports to connect to an old Plam III that I > keep around, a DMM that will send data over a serial link, a data > capture board with a RS-232 interface, a print server with a serial > control port, and HPC over a null modem cable. I sometimes connect > to other things as well. There are a few other things I connect to > from time to time, but this should give you an idea. That reminds me. I used to use my serial port to connect to a geiger counter. I must try to find out where that has gone ... I must say, I always hated serial ports, with endless nonsense about the speed, and whether they were using 7- or 8-bits. SLIP was a nightmare, even worse than WiFi. Although I am in general against progress, this is one exception.