---- Karl Larsen <k5di@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Mike C wrote: > > Generally in this list the postings relate to queries concerning problems and > > failings with Fedora, and how-to suggestions and workarounds for specific issues. > > > > I have now installed F8 on six different machines and all are running very well > > indeed and are better by far than F7 was. > > > > We tend to forget that being right at the bleeding edge means we may have > > problems but overall the new F8 is a big step forward over F7 in relation > > to several areas. > > > > 1) Wireless support is fantastic compared to F7 with the new in-kernel drivers > > for iwl3945 (and 4965), as well as the old ipw2200, and removing the need to > > compile and install proprietary drivers. Work is still being undertaken on > > ath5k and rt2x00 but the latter is now working well for me with a usb adapter > > that uses rt73usb. > > > > 2) Suspend seems to be much better than previously - I have one laptop that > > did not suspend and restart cleanly with F7, and it does with F8. > > > > I am sure that others could name more parts of the system that work well, or > > have been greatly improved. > > > > When I installed F8 I had an issue with the install hanging, but there is > > a known easy workaround. I also had a mess with pulse-audio but again a simple > > "yum remove" option was brought to this list and gives me a nice sound system > > without pulse-audio. > > > > It is a shame that these issues did hit a lot of people but once the workarounds > > have been done and the system installed and updated we do have a really nice > > distribution, and with so much new stuff in the recent kernels, as well as the > > supported applications, it is great to know that it is slick, secure and works > > well. Sure you do have to know how to fix the few remaining problems but it is > > well worth requesting info through the experts on this list and then running the > > best linux distro available. After all Linus himself I believe uses Fedora! > > > > Perhaps other could add their praise to the Fedora developers as much of the > > time we tend to see brickbats rather than accolades! > > > > My two-pennyworth... > > > > > Well this list is where we complain when Fedora somehow screws up. > So it is nice to see a good Subject for a good version. Yes my > experience with F8 has been about the same. After I got the sound right > that now works fine and yesterday I set up printing which I forgot to do > first, but it set up even easier than F7. > > So it appears F8 has the good parts of the much updated F7 and some > added fixes and additions. I like it! > Unfortunately, I have had the opposite experience. I have been using Redhat distributions since RedHat 4.0 and never had musch of a problem. With F8 that hasn't been the case. First of all, I had installation problems. The installation would hang after loading initrd.img. It turns out that was a known bug that has been around since when F7 was released and the solution is simply to hold down the SHIFT key while booting which gets you to a CLI prompt from where you can type linux and then installation proceeds normally. (Thanks to Knute, IIRC, for that) The next problem is a display resoltion problem wherein the GDM login screen is only about 3/4 ofthe screen size and when I log in the top menu bar and the bottom task bar follow the top and bottom of the GDM scrren but the background covers the whole screen. I found that I could move the bottom task bar and it jumped to the bottom of the screen and expanded to fill the full width but no such luck with the menu bar. I am still working on this problem. See my "Screen resilution problems in F8" thead from 2 days ago) A third problem is that sound doesn't work. I've never had a problem with this before. When udev starts there is a slight pop in the speakers and when I go to System->Administration->Sound Card Detection and use the "play sound" button I get a very quiet muffled sound (kind of like a record being played backwards, Strawberry Fields thing) even though the volume is on max. On the positive side, I haven't had the problems with Java or Iced Tea that others have had. I use Java for financial charting (eg. http://www.prophet.net/analyze/javacharts.jsp) So long as people keep reporting their experiences and problems (hopfully without the "this software is a POS and everyone owes me an immediate answer!" attitude) and people keep providing answers and solutions (hopfully without the "If you had half a brain, you could figure this out for yorself!" attitude) then Fedora will continue to improve. Steve