On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:36:42 -0800 "bruce" <bedouglas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > clance... > > it's not a dell optiplex issue.. it's the drivers for sata/ati radeon in the > kernel... The options being suggested which work around problems are those which disable/avoid various hardware ad BIOS level system features that are not working properly. Similarly it looks very much that grub fails on these boxes because of problems with those boxes not with grub. Doesn't mean it wouldn't be nice to find workarounds, but it isn't simply a driver problem.