On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 14:07 +0100, Andrew Kelly wrote: > On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 13:54 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, Karl Larsen wrote: > > > > > Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > > On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, William Hooper wrote: > > > > > > > It's still available now: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.redhat.com/docs/books/max-rpm/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > given that that book appears to have not been updated since 2000, > > > > i'd suggest that it doesn't have much value these days, given all > > > > the rpm-related developments that have happened since then. > > > > > > > > rday > > > > > > > I take rday you know of a newer book in pdf form that we can all > > > make a book of that was written this month > > > > i'll tell you what, karl. things will go much more smoothly around > > here if we have a clearly-defined separation of responsibilities. > > now, in *my* case, having been around fedora for years, having used > > rpm for quite some time, and having actually *owned* the > > aforementioned book in treeware form, it will be *my* job to recommend > > that it might not be worth the time or money to get into it given that > > it's seven years old and almost certainly out of date, given > > everything that's happened with rpm since then. > > > > similarly, it will be *your* responsibility to do stupid things to > > your system, complain when it breaks, then offer to write worthless, > > error-filled "tutorials" that will almost certainly inspire readers > > who take you seriously to cause untold damage to their computers. > > > > how about it, karl? are you good with that? does that work for you? > > > > rday > > That, right there, is the best damn reading I've done in more'n'a > fortnight! Brilliant! > > It's a bit unfortunate that it was Karl and not somebody else, 'cuz > there'll be a bunch swelling up and running to defences and whatnot and > the whole beauty of it will be lost. But, we can't script life, can > we... > > Regardless of whose feelings may or may not be hurt, or whose shiny > armour will now be donned and brought to the frey, (or for that matter > the contents of the dozens of posts I still have yet to read), that was > a fantastic and wholly accurate vignette. > > Just lovely. > > And for what it's worth, the book is indeed rather aged, but the package > building side of rpm hasn't really changed so much as to make the book a > bad idea. I still thumb through mine occasionally, in fact, and was > really stoked to be able to download an e-version yesterday. > Actually, my thanks go to Karl for making me aware of its existence. > > Andy Much as both of you have suggested to Karl, Please go generate a blog for your bashing. It adds nothing to the list, makes you look childish and doesn't help anyone. Great Blog material. regards, LesH