On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 16:50 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote: > Mark Haney wrote: > > David Boles wrote: > >> on 10/23/2007 4:31 PM, Karl Larsen wrote: > >>> David Boles wrote: > >>>> on 10/23/2007 2:18 PM, Karl Larsen wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Those of you in the know are hinting that ext3, and mount and > >>>>> fdisk, and grub as we know it now will be replaced by other tools > >>>>> that work with a new computer design. It sounds a lot like the New > >>>>> Windows that is not working out as well as hoped. > >>>>> > >>>> Who said this? When? Links please. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> I know many in business were sent the new Windows as part of a > >>>>> deal and after the guys tried it for a few weeks they sent it back > >>>>> and reloaded the old XP. This is happening in many places. > >>>>> > >>>> Really? You know this, what you wrote in the above paragraph, for a > >>>> fact? > >>>> Can you produce some proof of any of this? I would like to see this > >>>> for > >>>> myself. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> My plan is to stay with Fedora X-1 which is the one before the > >>>>> one that has the new file system. > >>>>> > >>>> Why? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Because a change to a system without directories will be more > >>> than I want to learn and I'm not at all sure it is good. > >> > >> > >> Now you really have me confused. "a system without directories"? From > >> where are you getting this information? I don't recall anyone saying > >> anything such as this. > >> > >> > > > > I, too, am interested in this. I know ext4 is the next version of the > > ext filesystem, but everything else mentioned by you has to my > > knowledge NOT been hinted at on any of the lists I'm on. Facts, man, > > give us facts. > > > > > > > Sorry I can't give you facts. I am just thinking where Fedora is > going. I have today answered myself why /dev/sda changes while /dev/hda > is constant. I don't like it by the way. It makes writing a grub.conf > very difficult. > > I need to learn more about all this. Or go back to FC6. > > > > -- > > Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI > Linux User > #450462 http://counter.li.org. > The reason that all the /dev/hdX devices turned into /dev/sdX devices is because the underlying device drivers have changed. This change allows for a more structured approach to write hard drive controller device drivers and can share some common code. The old IDE/ATA drivers were reimplemented under the libata code which was originally written for SATA controller devices. If you use labels, partition uuids, or logical volumes then you can not care about which /dev/sdX is which. Also any Fedora after 7 will not have any /dev/hdX devices as the kernels are all going to use the libata drivers. So from now on forget that /dev/hdX devices exist or use a pre-libata for all ATA devices kernel from now on if you have to have /dev/hdX to live. I think you need to go read some of the documentation more myself so that you can become more educated about some of the changes are are taking place upstream in the kernel. That or use a less up to date distributions like Centos or Debian that is not going to change on you very rapidly like Fedora or Ubuntu will. I suggest reading the kernel changelog summary at http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges. They list the various changes that are taking place in the kernels. If you are wondering a future changes to the kernel then I suggest reading http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/Linux_Weather_Forecast as the site has a decent write up of what might and might not happen with the kernel. Adam Hough
